I have right now narrowed my search for what I want between two engines.

The one here, and the coming Torque Shaders Engine.

The plan is to make a mmorpg.

Those of you that have used this engine and have used the torque as well, what do you prefer about each and why?

This topic has been discussed before, I reccomend you use the search function and search for it. I think it was called A6 or Torque? Something in that direction.

From what I've read, Torque doesn't have a simple programming language as does 3DGS. If you don't know programming, 3DGS is decent. If you do, then it doesn't matter. 3DGS is very powerful. Experiment results have shown me 4 million polygons per second rendering rates are certainly possible in 3DGS.



These results are based on untextured grid models on my system (which has a 3GHz processor, Radeon 9600 XT video card (drivers from August 12, 2004), 512 MB RAM, and Windows XP Pro).

wow, 3Ghz is hardly the "average" system, ulillillia . Given, they are much more common, but a good percent of the market will have 2Ghz or less. Perhaps you should retry the same test on a computer with lower specs, around 2.0-2.5 Ghz. As for the origional post, for an MMORPG, gamestudio would work, but you will either need the Pro version, or the Populace plugin. The reason being, commercial edition only allows 4 players in multiplayer games... Besides that, Gamestudio would be my choice, due to its ease of use, for both expierenced and novice users!

Also you have to consider that the spec Ulillillia specs, will most likely be entry level in the next 6-12 months. I purchased my 3Ghz pc 2 years ago now, so I think it is a realistic benchmark.

Just my 2 cents.

Most PC users buy one computer and never upgrade it, and they probably won't buy another one ever unless they have to because of theft or damage. So, I don't think 3GHz is anywhere near average or entry level neither now nor 6 months from now. Only the hardcore and gadget people will fork over the dough or stay up to date.

I have run a gaming clan for 2 years, with a lot of members, 40+
Only 2 of them have had less than 3ghz PC's so I beg to differ

Most of the serious gamers I know think nothing of spending £300-£500 on a GFX card, and most of them are running bits of kit that put my PC to shame.

Again 90% of these guys are constantly rebuilding thier PC's adding new hardware and overclocking bits and bobs, looking for the best configuration. Our clan competed in 2 leagues and our team often got outspec'd.

I wonder if those of us who enjoy games, more so builders, are just not in as financially secure a position. When it comes to competative online play, I think you will see a much higher spec than 1-2Ghz CPU's with 512MB.

I would also like to say, that our gamers often took part in an online specification tester, and our team's PCs often rated in the top 20% of PC's around the world. So I may be speaking from a bias perspective, most of us upgrade or replace our PC's every 3 years.

Just my 2 cents, once more

It depends who your catering for. If you go for everyone, like most people here do, your game will need to have below average graphics, and will automatically look like an indie project.

All commercial games target the above average to overkill PCs. The bar is raised, and most gamers dont even look at indie projects. This is my oppinion, and I will start a thread to discuss this in more depth.