:| Oh God, why is this still not closed ot locked or something lol.

It's a moot debate really.

If the earth is 4+ billion years old, then why are we, as humans, so far behind on the technical curve? Since the advent of methods for keeping history, and judging from old books, we havn't made many advancments until around 2-3 thousands years ago. What happened for the billions of years beforehand? Did we just sit and stare at a rock? That doesn't make any sense... especially considering how from birth most of us want to learn and create... Keep this in perspective, 4 billion years of knowledge, verse how far we've come in only 2000 years... we should be well beyond UFO's by now.

Also, since we know humans looked like humans do today 2000 years ago, how come we never changed over 2000 years? Why don't I have 2 brains yet?

Will todays monkeys become humans in a few thousand years?

If we took a human and put them in the water their entire life, and their children, and so on, for lets say 1000 years, will they start to grow gills? Kinda like the Zora in Zelda.

:| Well evolution of that kind can take place but the main reason why i dont believe it did happened is because that would take billions upon billions of years.

As far as why we arent as far as our length of existence would dictate we should be..well maybe the last dominant civilization was just as intelligent, but just as dumb as we are, and they blew themselves back to the stoneage; the stoneage that we know.

I always believed that if you dont learn from your mistakes and you just keep trying to make them work, then history will just repeat itself. I think that there once was an advanced human civilization, or several that got further up the development ladder than us.. but still hadnt learned enough wisdom to make it last.

Then that would render all scientific advancments usless. After all, we'd just start from the stone-age again anyways, so what's the point of learning more?

P.S - I don't buy into us destroying ourselves. Information would have survived somehow... if there was a huge war today, i'm sure we all be burying our textbooks underground for future generations. Of course if we destroyed ourselves, then there would be no future generation. Unless you wait a few billion years for the monkeys of today to become the humans of tommorow.

There is data, and there are conclusions to be made from data. The statement made by certain unnamed members of this forum that "all scientists accept evolution" is bogus.

I have sources here from a variety of organizations-- HAPPY READING!

http://titusonenine.classicalanglican.net/?p=7636

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/050714/doctorsfaith.shtml

http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/rncse_content/vol17/5319_many_scientists_see_god39s__12_30_1899.asp

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002345130_docs23.html

http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/04/04/01.asp

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml


Of course, the amount of scientist who believe in evolution or God really doesnt effect the truth or untruth of the issue one iota. At this point it just remains as a matter of principle. Im tired of personal attacks made upon people who believe in God as being unreasonable, unintelligent, or delusional. You would think that someone with a good head on their shoulders would at least look at the data and admit that maybe, just maybe, all Christians are not delusional crackpots and that some of us are just as intelligent if not more intelligent than the people who are condemning us.

xD well I dunno what happened, but I dont believe all knowledge was lost.. it's slowly being recovered in the form of relics and artifacts.

Also..I dont think it'd render advancement useless...but the idea is to excercise proportional wisdom. If you advance and you dont get wiser while doing so, stuff like building superpowerful weapons of mass destruction tends to happen.. and it's really only a matter of time before you committ some collosal irreversible f***up which unintentionally cleans the slate of human civilization.

The idea to me is to advance, and become wiser,..and then you wont mess it all up, as has probably been done a few times, and is about to be done again by us.

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They came from apes and I came from God

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Of course you still don't undertsand evolution, and the fact that Man didn't come from "apes".. we have a common ancestor. Get over it.

As Thomas Huxley said to a similar person:"I'd rather a monkey for a father than such a one as you."

Nitro77: I suppose your main problem is that you are confusing Christianity with creationism. The second problem is that I see from your statements that you don't know much about the methods and purposes of science.

You've posted many links that you seem to think corroborate your claims, but in fact they corroborate the contrary. You should maybe read an article before posting a link to it:

"Scientists almost unanimously accept Darwinian evolution over millions of years as the source of human origins."

The links are mostly about how many scientists believe in God. But - and you can read this in your of own links - even the very religous scientists normally do not believe in creationism.

Protestantism has accepted evolution 100 years ago, Catholizism 25 years ago. Creationism is rejected not only by mainstream science, but also by mainstream Christianity.

You can believe in God and at the same time accept science, the Big Bang and the evolution theory. You can even see the "Hand of God" in Darwin's evolution if you want. Or you can believe in God and not care about science - that's also fine. But you really don't do yourself a favor attacking scientific theories and methods that you obviously do not know very well.

For a beginning, look at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wiki/science