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Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: xoNoid] #72079 04/26/06 23:48 04/26/06 23:48
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC P Penneywize9 OP Newbie
Penneywize9 OP Newbie P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC	Great discussion so far. I like the positive news about IceX 2.0. I might go with that based on the price alone... And the fact that it is made FOR Gamestudio doesn't hurt either. Quote: IceX2 is a fantastic tool. Freeworld 3d is another very good alternative. Worldmachine and L3DT are good generators with very cool options to generate realistic looking terrains. They are a bit more complicated as IceX2 and Freeworld but are better generators. But they lack the interactivity that IceX2 and Freeworld 3D provide. Terragen is an interesting generator and has superb rendering quality (for terrain and water, the clouds are bit simple). But the interactivity while deforming terrains is not very useful. Vue5 can generate, export and deform terrains. My favourites are IceX2 and Freeworld 3D. Thanks for the info Frank! Very nice breakdown. Last edited by Penneywize9; 04/26/06 23:48.

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: xoNoid] #72080 04/27/06 09:26 04/27/06 09:26
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 10 E Erniethegamer Newbie
Erniethegamer Newbie E Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 10	it depends on how detailt the map should be! You should use the LOT system to save memory on a large map and you can get a few FPS more out of it by choosing an camera angle that point a littel bit down, so that u can see whats in front of u for about 100 meters or so. With that way (wich is also used in GTA)you see enouge in front of u but not too much on the horizon, what would cost FPS an memory. If you wanna make a game like GTA i would say, make it in blocks with good textures. (a singel large block, with a good texture, can look like a high detail Sky scraper)

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: xoNoid] #72081 04/27/06 11:04 04/27/06 11:04
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,065 Germany, Jena, Thüringen 3D_Train_Driver Serious User
3D_Train_Driver Serious User Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,065 Germany, Jena, Thüringen	Hi! Terraformer. Mit Game-Studio erstellt, f�r Game-Studio Anwendungen. Das Programm erstellt Terrains unterschiedlichen Ausma�es - bis 101x101 Vertices. Das Ma� ergibt sich wegen der Einfachheit der Berechnung. 101x101 Vertices sind n�mlich 100x100 Zwischenr�ume und bei einem Abstand von 20 Quants erg�be das 2x2km. Man kann die verformung direkt zeichnen und das ganze nach verschiedenen Paletten Verarbeiten. Wenn man ein nahtloses Nachbar-Terrain erstellen will, kann man z.B. den linken Rand des letzten terrains speichern, ein neues erstellen und dann das Gespeicherte auf den rechten Rand des neuen Terrains anwenden. Terraformer erstellt zwar nicht direkt das .HMP-Format aber die .TXT-Dateien, die man in MED problemlos importieren kann. Texturen sind bei Terrain ja sowieso nicht ganz so wichtig, denn das regelt am Ende ja der Shader? Das Programm gibts hier: New Sound Factory Au�erdem gibt es daf�r diverse H�henkarten zum Runterladen. Das Programm kostet nichts und die H�henkarten k�nnen frei verwendet werden. MfG WWW.NEWSOUNDFACTORY.DE

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Erniethegamer] #72082 04/29/06 17:23 04/29/06 17:23
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 311 Aaron Senior Member
Aaron Senior Member Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 311	what's the lot system? how can I get into it? is their a place in the script where I change the value? also which would take more memory? would making a level in wed using blocks take more memory or would making a level as a model and loading it in wed would that take more memory? I heard that making your large level in a model form will take less memory than it would if you make a big level in wed with the block's and prefab's.

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Aaron] #72083 04/29/06 22:13 04/29/06 22:13
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC P Penneywize9 OP Newbie
Penneywize9 OP Newbie P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC	Quote: what's the lot system? how can I get into it? is their a place in the script where I change the value? also which would take more memory? would making a level in wed using blocks take more memory or would making a level as a model and loading it in wed would that take more memory? I heard that making your large level in a model form will take less memory than it would if you make a big level in wed with the block's and prefab's. That's a lot of questions for one paragraph. Let's try and keep this thread on-topic. This is not a thread about terrain programs vs. modelling your own terrain vs. blocks in WED. This is a thread about which program you use to generate terrain, it's pros and cons and so on. If anyone can help Aaron out, please do so via PM if possible... So far though, good thread, let's keep it going!

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Penneywize9] #72084 04/30/06 21:33 04/30/06 21:33
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 698 England, UK A Aaron_H User
Aaron_H User A Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 698 England, UK	This thread it really useful. Thanks to it, I finally tried out the Freeworld 3D program. It looks very nice and easy to use. - Does anyone have any tips for creating terrain with it that can go into 3DGS well. Like the best formats to export to, or guidelines on how they should construct their terrain (max highmap size or whatever)? Sorry if I sound pretty new to it. I've not messed around with the program before. Thanks

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Aaron_H] #72085 05/04/06 22:24 05/04/06 22:24
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC P Penneywize9 OP Newbie
Penneywize9 OP Newbie P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC	Good question, Aaron... I have similar trouble, trying to get terrains from L3DT into 3DGS.. MED can't open any of the files it puts out, and it doesn't produce a greyscale and a seperate texture map like you'd expect it to... If anyone can help either I or Aaron out, please do so!

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Penneywize9] #72086 05/11/06 09:05 05/11/06 09:05
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 402 USA lionclaws Senior Member
lionclaws Senior Member Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 402 USA	Aaron_H,you need to go check this Terrain tool out at: http://www.freeworld3d.org/ Take your time and read,some really interesting features including roadway layout functionality.Not really expensive and worth the $$$. Good lighting doesn't just happen,it's designed.

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: lionclaws] #72087 05/12/06 04:33 05/12/06 04:33
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC P Penneywize9 OP Newbie
Penneywize9 OP Newbie P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 40 Montreal, QC	Just felt I should post the end-result of what I've been able to do with World Machine (demo version): You can see a great deal of terrain in the bg. Any thoughts? Feel free to post pics of your own terrain, just be sure to mention which engine you created it with.

Re: Terrain-Creation Programs - Which do you prefe [Re: Penneywize9] #72088 05/13/06 14:35 05/13/06 14:35
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 56 Arizona, USA T trister Junior Member
trister Junior Member T Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 56 Arizona, USA	Can someone provide the link to IceX 2.0? or did I missed it reading this post? Thanks, Tri

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