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JCL Promised Downgrade #77773 06/15/06 00:25 06/15/06 00:25
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA TeutonicDarkness OP User
TeutonicDarkness OP User Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA	Hello, I have A question that I feel Needs to be answered. Since my last Thread was ignored lets try this again A lot of us A6 users Where Promised a Downgrade to an Early A5 version ( between 5.202 and 5.24) For us to use Software Rendering. Here is JCL original post: http://www.coniserver.net/ubbthreads/sho...true#Post520867 Seeing That 6.4 has indeed went Public and is offered on the Download page.... I think it is fair to say I have waited long enough! May I Please have my Downgrade? Thanks, * Teutonic Darkness *

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: TeutonicDarkness] #77774 06/15/06 01:03 06/15/06 01:03
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,608 mk_1 Expert
mk_1 Expert Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,608	No, you may not. Why do you want a downgrade if every pc today supports hardware acceleration? Follow me on twitter

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: mk_1] #77775 06/15/06 06:36 06/15/06 06:36
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490 O Orange Brat Senior Expert
Orange Brat Senior Expert O Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490	I don't think it's accurate to say that every PC today supports hardware acceleration. However, I would say that it is accurate that most PCs have either no 3D card or an old one(GeForce 3 or older). My User Contributions master list - my initial post links are down but scroll down page to find list to active links

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: Orange Brat] #77776 06/15/06 06:52 06/15/06 06:52
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,320 Alberta, Canada William Expert
William Expert Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,320 Alberta, Canada	Pick me some recently released games that don't use hardware... even FFP will be ommited a 2-3 years from now. If your planning to create educational games for really old school computers, then mabye you'll need software. But even most school computers should have some built in Intel Graphics cards by now. Though this makes me curious, what kind of a project are you creating that needs to run on ancient computers? Check out Silas. www.kartsilas.com Hear my band Finding Fire - www.myspace.com/findingfire Daily dev updates - http://kartsilas.blogspot.com/

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: William] #77777 06/15/06 07:55 06/15/06 07:55
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,986 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,986 Frankfurt	Unrelated to the usefulness of A5.24, I indeed promised it, thus you shall get your downgrade. However the planned date was the A6.4 release as basic version, not the update. Are you in a hurry for some reason? I'm away next week, but after my return I could prepare the downgrade if you really need it urgently.

Re: Up/Down A5 Pro? [Re: jcl] #77778 06/16/06 00:41 06/16/06 00:41
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA TeutonicDarkness OP User
TeutonicDarkness OP User Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA	Quote: Unrelated to the usefulness of A5.24, I indeed promised it, thus you shall get your downgrade. However the planned date was the A6.4 release as basic version, not the update. Are you in a hurry for some reason? I'm away next week, but after my return I could prepare the downgrade if you really need it urgently. Hey, Well not that its an immediate necessity but I have waited allmost a year. I Really Wanted A5 when I bought A6.. But I was told it wasn't an option I have A6 Commercial and A version of A5 Extra I bought from a Legal Software vendor. (AbraCadata) So its not a matter of not knowing what I'm getting into. I'm constanly having to switch between the 2 for different reasons. Code: * What I would like to know is if I can Upgrade to A6 Pro and Then Downgrade back to A5 Pro; Or Could I just outright buy A5 Pro. If I get A5 I really want to go Full bore instead of Commercial :) Hey I do Apologize If I have gotten impatient a few times over the last year. I will be Eternally Gratefull to you if you will do this for me Thanks, * Teutonic Darkness *

Re: Up/Down A5 [Re: TeutonicDarkness] #77779 06/16/06 02:33 06/16/06 02:33
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 232 Curitiba/Brazil nunofontoura Member
nunofontoura Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 232 Curitiba/Brazil	I started that topic (1 year ago!) and I'm waiting the "downgrade" too. @mk_1 - Copying and pasting from that post: Quote: I want to make games I don't need 3D video hardware. I will make game to schools and the most of them don't have 3D devices. So, the A6 is not the sowftware for me. Although it's true that today computers supports hardware acceleration, there are a lot of costumers who doesn't have "today computers". For my experience, I can say that schools don't upgrade their computers so often.

Re: Up/Down A5 [Re: nunofontoura] #77780 06/16/06 03:27 06/16/06 03:27
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490 O Orange Brat Senior Expert
Orange Brat Senior Expert O Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490	Quote: But even most school computers should have some built in Intel Graphics cards by now. It wouldn't be accurate to say this, either. Most schools don't upgrade the PCs that were ancient when they received them. My User Contributions master list - my initial post links are down but scroll down page to find list to active links

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: mk_1] #77781 06/16/06 03:39 06/16/06 03:39
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA TeutonicDarkness OP User
TeutonicDarkness OP User Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 725 USA	@Everyone other than Conitec... or possibly users seeking the same downgrade as myself. I'm not trying to be Rude but this thread was Intended for Conitec. ( Notice the Ask Conitec ? ) It dosn't matter what you think of A5 or its worth, or for that matter why we ( A5 software rendering fans) would want it. You don't See Me Going to Shader Forums and posting about how much I don't like them? So Please lets just stick to the relevant info here If you want to debate A5 and its usefullnes... please start another thread or just P.M. me Thank you, * Teutonic Darkness *

Re: JCL Promised Downgrade [Re: TeutonicDarkness] #77782 06/22/06 17:03 06/22/06 17:03
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 86 PlayStefan Junior Member
PlayStefan Junior Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 86	Hi, i have a question to the "promissed downgrade"... Will there be an opportunity to use the Downgrade with my 3D GameStudio 5 Extra (would be nice ) or does it only work with an existing version of A6 (I guess because it isn�t an update )? Please answer, because if the answer is "no" I don�t have to wait any longer because I�m not planning to buy A6 at the moment.... otherwise I will continue waiting... Mfg, PlayStefan <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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