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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: Robotronic]
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04/14/07 04:40
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Hey Guys, I've been gone and am trying to help INTEL to help APPLE.  It's a long story though. Basically the company I work for is trying to make a project for them and I had to leave for Oregon a couple of days ago.  Quote:
Of course this has absolutely nothing to do with the finall fall of the Byzantine empire, which happened in 1453.
The Qur´an was written several centuries before this and the passage, that you quote was a reference to a battle between the Persians and the Romans in 615 AD.
Yes, I agree and that is an excellent point.
But, the Bzyantines <in their day> were not called Byzantines, but were called Romans. 
The Koran is just lifting up another example of violence as good again.  When violence is not good.
Btw, understand that the Koran is supposed to be a LATER revelation from God. It is newer than the new testament.
So, when it contradicts the bible and Christ, then you are supposed to obey it <and not the bible> and then go to WAR and stuff. Because it is a LATER revelation!
It's pretty ridulous, but oh well. 
Reading the Koran, you understand that God is pleased with head-chopping and all types of abominations. shheesh. 
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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: Ran Man]
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04/14/07 10:20
04/14/07 10:20
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HEY! im a christian, and trust me, I am in no way in favor of what bush is doing, there is no way that smug stuttering, half-retarded dumass should be allowed to be an example of what a Christian really is.
rofl...the irony.
Ok, i know were you probably see the irony, the fact that I am not even half as informed as most of the people on this forum, in any topic, namely for this case Christianity, but honestly, if I were to have anybody represent Christians, it would definitely not be him. Do you at least see were im coming from there?
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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: NITRO777]
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04/14/07 10:52
04/14/07 10:52
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It hardly matters what your definitions of a race are.
A group that has the same religion is (by far) not (always) the same as a race. It really matters a lot, since through time Jews have consisted of a whole variety of races Nitro . Eugenics is about groups that share a genetic history, a group of people with the same religion doesn't have to be from the same race at all. (Hitler considered Jews to be a (just one) race, yes, but off course he was 100% wrong there).
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even according to Darwinist standards the Jews seem much more 'fit' 'superior' 'strong' whatever then any nation on earth based upon many observations.
That's a rather shortsighted view (eventhough not really yours, I understand) though, not just because Jews are not a race, but also compared to other races... It's not like Jews have been the only group of people that has been slaved, hunted, prosecuted or whatever more. Let it be clear that I'm not defending any ideology, I'm just saying not even Jews are 'superior' not based on anything. You seem to be mixing up Hitler's ideology and Darwinian theory, although I'm sure you are familiar with the fact that Hitler simply took the things he could (ab)use.
When I'm honest, I often think Jews are acting rather strange in Israel right now, considering what they do to the Palestinians vs. what they have been through in World War II, and I'm saying this eventhough there's Jewish blood in my family. I find it very unfunny to hear that some (emphasis on 'some' here) Jewish people consider themselves to be superior to others, (not meant to anyone personal at all)
Cheers
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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: Ran Man]
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04/14/07 12:55
04/14/07 12:55
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The Koran is just lifting up another example of violence as good again. When violence is not good.
I wonder about this guy, George Washington. Do you think, he was a Muslim (maybe even some kind of Imam or Grand Ayatollah)?
I mean this guy picked up arms in his jihad for independence!
Against the British empire!!!
Now, that you have explained all this to me, I think the inspiration for his disobedient behaviour can only come from the Qur´an.
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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: NITRO777]
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04/14/07 18:18
04/14/07 18:18
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"I can't see any reason to assume ANY race would be superior to another and I really mean ANY"
Not superior. Just at one time the group of people you are talking about was Gods chosen. :-) Notice I said at one time. I dont think they are chosen at all any more. I think they are in fact tough.. considering the things they have done since 1948 WITHOUT the help of God.
O_O Maybe I should have said all that in a seperate topic.. I can feel my fellow Christians eye-balling me. lol
Last edited by Kinji_2007; 04/14/07 18:20.
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Re: Any Muslims here?
[Re: fogman]
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04/14/07 19:38
04/14/07 19:38
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Coppell, Texas
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The first world war... (god with us)
Yes, but aren't peoples motives important? Or should we ignore that?
Did the Germans kill the british, because they were infidels or non-believers in WW1?
Did Hitler proclaim a "HOLY WAR" in WW2? No, he did not.
Does Bush proclaim a "HOLY WAR" now? No, he does not.
Yet, muslims do this all the time and nobody cares.
Bin Laden and Hamas, they all say they kill the infidels, but you guys say they do not. ?
What? Do you understand their ideas and reasoning?
The motive of a nation or individual means a lot?
These people kill others, because the Koran tells them to do it, but you guys say they kill for bush or for poverty, but that is not what they SAY.
Why don't you guys listen to them and their writings?
Okay, so sorry to upset everybody's "apple carts of ideas".
I have a game to program and I gotta go.
GOD is calling me to go program for Him.
But really guys, get your head out of the sand for once?
Bye...
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