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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: TheExpert]
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06/26/07 19:08
06/26/07 19:08
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Orange Brat
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Perhaps in the last times , but it has been a big perdiod about two / three
years were me and others people we have been wiating and nothing has been done !
It can't take two years working full time to bring little features !
It was nowhere near two years, and they weren't working on little features. It takes time, and per Doug's post a few weeks ago, they rewrote the entire engine (or almost the entire engine), so most people were not or are still not aware that it's an entirely new engine. This wasn't announced, and we wouldn't even know it today if not for that post. This rewrite includes Lite-C, ABT, getting A7-ready, as well as rewriting the collision (which is the only major feature we knew was being worked on in that 12-14 month time). And, since when are things like a new language and ABT little features?
Anyway, it doesn't matter, now. Everything is back to normal.
My User Contributions master list - my initial post links are down but scroll down page to find list to active links
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: Orange Brat]
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06/27/07 17:59
06/27/07 17:59
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TheExpert
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"It was nowhere near two years" ahahahaha  you wasn't here when me and others was crying of no updates , after the first shader feature release nothing have been done during two years (and i'm gentle caus it was lot more than two years) , nothing , no update. Were was you ????? And the update after this long period was only minor things and A7 wasn't real at all , development was far from beginning , A7 is really recent ! I'm one mind open in 3D engines, not fanatic , so i don't forget more than two years of no updates !! But like i said , nowadays , any company that sleeps won't go very far and will loose it's customers !
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: TheExpert]
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06/28/07 00:02
06/28/07 00:02
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Orange Brat
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you wasn't here when me and others was crying of no updates ,
after the first shader feature release nothing have been done during two years (and i'm gentle caus it was lot more than two years) ,
nothing , no update.
Were was you ?????
I was right here and have been since late 1999 or early 2000. It wasn't two years. In the past 18 months there have been approximately five public releases ranging from version 6.40 to 6.60 and all the variants in between (6.40.5, 6.50, etc). I can't remember but was the delay between 6.31 and 6.40? If so, then it was about 15 months (give or take). Of course, if you're talking about the time between "official" releases then maybe it was over two years, but I count public betas as official releases and that's what I'm using for my time line.
A7 isn't really recent, either. The first "official" mention of it on the news page was 6 months ago, and Conitec has been talking about it in often vague terms for months before this.
Why are we arguing about the history of Conitec releases?
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: TheExpert]
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06/28/07 00:03
06/28/07 00:03
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after the first shader feature release nothing have been done during two years
Nothing may have been released to the public for more than a year, but I can assure you lots got done (and very little sleep was had). 
New core engine, Atari, Lite-C, non-BSP collision, etc. This didn't all get done in a couple of weeks after a long nap.
It's okay to criticize us for not releasing more frequent updates. But please don't pretend like you know what is going on on our side.
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: Doug]
#133205
06/28/07 17:27
06/28/07 17:27
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TheExpert
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Doug : Don't worry , other 3D engines have also put lot of time , even TV3D users are waiting for more than 3 years for an official 6.5 version  And some engines have never tooked off like BlitzMax 3D that will never exist and announced from some years on Blitz3D forums ! Or the cool Cypher engine that is no more maintained by it's author, and no source / nothing for the users that have been using it from the beginning ! For 3DGS some things like shader editor announced from more one two year easily etc ... if you would put the date of the announcement of a feature in the forecast page , everyone would be surprised about the delay to deliver some things ! I recognize, things are going in the good direction and 3DGS future is looking really bright indeed  (the most easy to use engine compared to others , improved workflow/tools and more power now) Let's wait for A7 ready to buy (hope before christmas  ) !! I'm an engine collector , even if i had flamed 3DGS sometimes for the just caus , i think i'll upgrade my version indeed
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: AlbertoT]
#133208
07/06/07 21:30
07/06/07 21:30
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TheExpert
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There is no new update announcement ! OR should we log directly into the download page for licensed people ? For price , it is one year BV exist ,the price is doubled , i think to be equal to others indie engines prices. But without new official update , all bugs problems , no screenshots progress ... we don't know what is going on ?? Are they doing fake communication to make people continue to buy it and let the engine down later ? like cypher engine bad history ? I think they pass lot more time on their game creation and things and only give some spare time for BV engine. If i have an update to do , i'll do it for A7  A7 updates are now coming, new products like C-Lite have been done , well 3DGS is doing in the good bright direction I don't like obscure and non communication from BV , it can hide something ? (like letting the engine down at final  ) BE aware BV people , don't buy / update too quickly (just my advice) !
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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)?
[Re: PHeMoX]
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07/09/07 19:41
07/09/07 19:41
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TheExpert
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Ok you are perhaps right Phemox I hope !! Enought customers is not enought , any company goal is grow the number of customers and keep the old ones buying an update ! I won't buy any updates until problems exporters resolved and shaders present. anyway it's like 3DGS a fantastic easy engine. I just hate the complicated matrix functions why they don't have done like 3DGS simple easy to understand functions like : pan , tilt , etc ... instead of awfull matrix functions i hate Let's wait future things , i use 3DGS A6.60 commercial that i own and like a lot for the moment A7 is not achieved enought , tools shaders etc ... not completed , not enought new things done , ready to use for me to update for now.
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