You would agree that quit often reviews are focused on bells and whistles rather than concrete stuff
If B.V. and other new engines have disappointed people well these kind of reviews should also be blamed, in my opinion
They push the designers to build a skyscraper without solid foundations
What's the point to implement a " road system ", a nice feature by the way ,if player can pass through geometry ?

I like BV and am positive Gamecore will be great (just as A7 will be). Some disgruntled users just try to ruin it for everyone else. Misery loves company.

Well i'm glad I didn't waste my money on the silver license. Maybe in 2009 it's finshed with documentation and better atitude from the developers!?

a quote from Katsumi Yokota / art director & lead artist (United Game Artists UGA)

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Rejection never moves anything forward. Endless approval is what moves things forward. Approving is far more harder than denying something. It was an endless year and a half of getting lost and believing that we will find the correct road again and again.

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Very true, by the way you should have quoted what he said before that too.

I was able to reconfirm to myself that it is always a real hard job to create something for someone. It's almost a miracle when anything is actually finished. Creating something that everyone loves is so unbelievably difficult, that if you just look away for a moment, something slips away from you. -Katsumi Yokota

Cheers

Well , this show that with an easy to program engine (TV3D,Irrlicht,
Ogre3D etc ....)
if you have a team and some dedicaced programmer for tools ,
that's the best way, no wait.
I've seen on ogre 3D forums some pople showing great games or
complete world/terrain editors for their games.

That way , or pay more for a more complete/powerfull engine.

By using Ogre3D i can say it really have next gen power and graphics ,
it' totally free, lot of frequent updates/bug fixes ...
who could dreamm better : ) ?
bad sie : it's only a graphic engine and you need
a team with some programmers.

Another point loy of people forgot a lot :
the 3D art you make is really the more important , even on PS2
that is not Next Gen : play the game God Of War 2
It's so beautifull architecture , effects, animations , models that is as
beautifull as some today next gen games.

It's not a terrain based game , so lot of engines supporting lightmaps
could produce such results.

But not a lot here in the forums have a talentued charcater artist
and level designer with them : that's the WEAK point !
Otherwise, we would see too many good looking games that would make jaleous
onther engines like always

Well Orange Brat , that's the difference from some good games here and here and
some bigger , more commercial games made with a real team :
some strong programmers, 3D artists.

But 3D ready to go packages are very helpfull , even big big companyes prefer to buy Unreal Engine 3 that is a proven , next gen one than loosing years on
making a 3D engine.

Fortunatly in indie market and big commercial one, some will always make their own engine :
Crytek for example !

Well ... yes we have 3DGS and some others, for fun and pleasure of game making