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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: lostclimate] #133762
06/05/07 12:19
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Did you ever play Mafia? You turned from an usual taxi-driver into a really bad guy. And you can "win" all your levels but the player dies in the final cut-scene. You were evil, you know, and this was the paycheck

In some RPG's you had to melt your evil and your good side to end the game and this resulted in death as well.

I think this approach is not new at all. But to be honest: There are so much people around the world and there have been. All stories are told. We can only alter them and put them into a new location. That is nothing new but still can create amazing stuff.


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: Machinery_Frank] #133763
06/05/07 14:13
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Quote:

say like an SS member in WW2, killing innocent people




I'd love a game like that! But it would be too easy... A breed between SplinterCell and BlackHawkDown. Stealth killer against retards throwing rocks...


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: xXxGuitar511] #133764
06/06/07 10:40
06/06/07 10:40
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Poor village - Poland ;)
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Poor village - Poland ;)
It doesn't matter for me to be a good or bad character in game. Both parts are interesting (if you can chose between them during the game I will always play twice) if of'course game is good enought
More importand and interessting for me is not to "save the world" (again) but to care of myself like GTA, Mafia, TR... etc
But if you are the good guy and bad gay will win... it means you'll lost... so you making this about 50 times in game when you are die and have to load saved game so don't do it... just die, turn off computer and bad guy will win

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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: tompo] #133765
06/06/07 15:21
06/06/07 15:21
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Ever played "Star Wars Republic Commando"?
In the end you find out that you were on the bad side...
But the end is anyway kind of sad.


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: Puppeteer] #133766
06/06/07 16:41
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Quote:

Ever played "Star Wars Republic Commando"?
In the end you find out that you were on the bad side...
But the end is anyway kind of sad.




Same thing with the XBox360 game Crackdown.
I was hoping in the end you could take down the organization you worked for, but no luck.


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: Doug] #133767
06/06/07 21:05
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@derOmega:
I didn't had the feeling to have been on the "bad side" in "Star Wars Republic Commando" but may I just don't remember?
Well I still remember that you had to leave one Commando member behind.
But you saved the Wookies (for example).
Or did I miss something?

Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: Xarthor] #133768
06/06/07 21:59
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playing shooters, you are forced to use brutal violence to achieve your goals. aren't you always a bad guy then?
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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: broozar] #133769
06/06/07 22:58
06/06/07 22:58
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Good point Broozar. Good versus bad is really about perspective and goals. Anyone that doesn't match mine is on the "other" side...

Mark


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: MadMark] #133770
06/06/07 23:29
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playing shooters, you are forced to use brutal violence to achieve your goals. aren't you always a bad guy then?




Violence doesn't automatically equal bad, so no it doesn't.


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Re: Bad guy wins...? [Re: Orange Brat] #133771
06/07/07 17:41
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fighting violence with violence does not make you look different from you enemies. if violence isn't bad, what else is? i agree there are certain shades of displaying it on the screen.

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