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Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: Poison] #136216
06/16/07 12:32
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Its illegal to wrap up any software and call it as your own. Its like you are selling somebody's else wine in a new bottle, calling it your own product. Everyone should refrain from shuch things.

Even if you are adding some more functionality a product, you cant layout the terms and pricing for that product. One can charge for their own creations but cant try to endorse or hijack somebody else's creation, and call it his own.


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Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: msl_manni] #136217
06/16/07 12:34
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did u really looked at the engine ? its a "Script Compiler" based on
http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=69531


not wrapper !

cleary .. its a softawre made with Blitz3D ..

Last edited by ACKNEX007; 06/16/07 12:36.
Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: ACKNEX007] #136218
06/16/07 12:38
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whats the problem delete the old engine and wrote a new with visualstudio or irrlicht but i think if you make it with irrlicht than this problem should be come again ;-(


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Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: ACKNEX007] #136219
06/16/07 12:44
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Quote:

i can buy the license NOW (immdeiatly)! ,
but my question is ... will blitz allow me to develop this Compiler ?

because currently i don't have a login in blitzbasic.com , i cannot come & chat there.

will the Problem solved if i buy the license ?

thank you.






you cannot and should not proceed with o3d. It is illegal and will surely put you in many more troubles. Refrain from such an Idea.


Quote:

did u really looked at the engine ? its a "Script Compiler" based on
http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=69531


not wrapper !

cleary .. its a softawre made with Blitz3D ..




As you are already putting out that you are using somebodys else hard work and trying to call it yours. Even the script engine is not yours. You could have used the script compiler for your game and given the users the benefit to alter the game you made. You should not use any script compiler - Lua, TinyC, or any oter script compiler to expose the functions of any body's else's creations.

Again I am telling you in BOLD LETTERS that stop such activity. It's ILLEGAL. PERIOD.


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Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: msl_manni] #136220
06/16/07 12:45
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ok..i will wait for the reply from Mark Sibly. (BR)

Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: ACKNEX007] #136221
06/16/07 12:56
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>>> Who is this guy trying to fool?

not me !

Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: ACKNEX007] #136222
06/16/07 13:19
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erm..
ettoo...

Few things:
*caps lock on*
EDIT YOUR GODDAMN POSTS I HATE TO READ FIFTY FKING POSTS THAT ARE POSTED BY YOU INSIDE 5 MINUTES!!
*caps lock off*

Could you please post up Blitz3D's response, with your question and their answer?
Also can you prove you own your own copy of Blitz?
Why did you choose Blitz (IrrLicht is free, Ogre3D is free) when you have only Dx 7/8 support? Seriously

Act more maturely, I'm losing my faith to this engine. Oh, I'm not going to look for it, but where do you state that your engine is based on Blitz?

Also everyone here act more maturely and quit fighting, thanks ^^


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Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: Inestical] #136223
06/16/07 13:49
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ACKNEX007 :

one remark , you want to go too fsat just by judging hwo many posts you put
Calm down you have all your life to make your 3D script interface
Take all your time , to think what you really want to do , and what are the best
tools: things that are appropriate.


Don't go on a rush , it will go anywhere good , trust me !


just one suggestion ,
instead of battling for Blitz3D that is DX7 and with illegal/problems you can have with it ...

why not directly go with Irrlicht3D (just to give an example!!) ?
DX9, already shadows, normal map support, full shader support,
world tool editor etc ...

All Free to use, and as simple as Blitz3D SDK that is old (DX7) :
to load an MD2 file: only one line of code :

scene::IAnimatedMeshSceneNode* anms = smgr->addAnimatedMeshSceneNode(
smgr->getMesh("../../media/sydney.md2"));

And you could write hight level function that would do same thing like :

MyEngine.LoadMD2(fileName)


With Irrlicht you have rights for all and can do what you want

Why people choose complicated ways/solutions some times

Last edited by TheExpert; 06/16/07 13:51.
Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: TheExpert] #136224
06/16/07 14:13
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>>> TheExpert

yes.that is true !
i think i will re-build the engine in irrlicht3D.

>>> Inestical

Also can you prove you own your own copy of Blitz?
- as i already said i bought it in a CD SHOP in my country (SriLanka).. but i did not got any login keys. anyway if Blitz say i need a license i am happy to buy that !

Why did you choose Blitz (IrrLicht is free, Ogre3D is free) when you have only Dx 7/8 support? Seriously
.. its becasue blitz is easy to use & fast for me.(some people liek DX7/8 than DX9 because of hardware requirements.)


and its not using Blitz3D Runtime.. its a software coded in Blitz3D..
it will read the binary data & compile , run it.


Thanks for your comments.

EDIT :
this page says...
http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=70394
If someone created a game maker in blitz that compiled it's own executables separate from the blitz runtime I'd have no problem with it.

He, on the other hand, is selling the blitz runtime with a scripting mod attached.


i am not using the Blitz3D Runtime / wrapping functions directly..

every script will be parsed & compiled by O3D's manual written Scripts

thank you.

** but better than using Blitz3D iwth DX 7, i think i will build the O3D in Irrlicht3D.

Last edited by ACKNEX007; 06/16/07 14:26.
Re: New 3D Engine - Original3D [Re: ACKNEX007] #136225
06/16/07 14:28
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Hey Acknex007 i think that they in the other forum of blitz 3d have a photo from you an a picture of your home from google earth is it right ??

If it is right man what they doing here did they play detectives or what?


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