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Re: Kann es Evolution geben?????
[Re: Tobias]
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06/30/07 16:24
06/30/07 16:24
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NITRO777
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I think only few today have such a hate towards other religions that they want to punish a different belief with killing or torture in hell.
really? I find that hard to believe. I think you will find that in spite of what some people might say, the reality is that their own hearts are full of anger, hatred, torture, and killing.
From the experience of my life, I have been unlucky enough to see what really exists in the hearts of some people. If you think that only a few have hatred then I can only hope you can continue to live in your fantasy world. Because I see what happens to people who are driven by hate and pride every day, even in this most civilized America.
You can wear a suit and tie, you can go to church, you can even be "nice" and politically correct and call yourselef a Christian. But Jesus knows whats in your heart, and you will be judged by God accordingly. As evidenced by the Master when He said:
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Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful, but inwardly are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
You can say that you dont have sin, and you dont have hate, but God alone knows whats in your heart. Thats why we need Jesus. 
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Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no excuse for their sin.
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Re: Kann es Evolution geben?????
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06/30/07 16:32
06/30/07 16:32
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Tobias
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From the experience of my life, I have been unlucky enough to see what really exists in the hearts of some people.
Look into your own heart. It is you who's trying to justify killing innocents. Other people are normally not "full of anger, hatred, torture, and killing". Especially not if they are Christians and I don't mean members of your sect.
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Re: Kann es Evolution geben?????
[Re: Tobias]
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06/30/07 16:51
06/30/07 16:51
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NITRO777
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Look into your own heart.
I do, I already admitted that I have sins.
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It is you who's trying to justify killing innocents.
I never said that, that is your gross misinterpretation of what I said.
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Other people are normally not "full of anger, hatred, torture, and killing". Especially not if they are Christians - and I don't mean members of your sect. ]
Oh I get it, so your saying that you are this great loving group of Christians unlike my "sect" huh? Ok, if you want to continue believing this lie go for it, but if you actually want to look at what the Bible says we are ALL under sin:
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Rom 3:10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God;
Rom 3:12 They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; There is none that doeth good, no, not, so much as one:
Rom 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; With their tongues they have used deceit: The poison of asps is under their lips:
Rom 3:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
Rom 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood;
Rom 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
Rom 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:
Rom 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
So I find it interesting that you and other normal people(not evil people from my "sect") never have any sin in their hearts? fascinating. You must have some superior breeding, huh?
But I keep forgetting, the true "Christians" like the ones your trying to represent here dont seem to accept any part of the Bible. Tell me then, what qualifies someone to be a Christian? Do you qualify just because you call yourself one?
Are you a Christian because you are a white European?
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Re: Kann es Evolution geben?????
[Re: Tobias]
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06/30/07 17:44
06/30/07 17:44
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AlbertoT
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Tobias
Everybody here is on your side but Bible is on NITRO'S side
Have you ever read the letter exchanges between Erasmus and Luther about "predestination" ?
Erasmus, Tobias (I suppose) , all conitec's member and myself think that predestination is a mostruosity
But Luther said and Nitro ( I suppose ) says
Dear Erasmus , Tobias , Conitec's members and Alberto... read the Bible
The point is that they are right
Last edited by AlbertoT; 06/30/07 17:46.
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Re: Kann es Evolution geben?????
[Re: Tobias]
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06/30/07 20:17
06/30/07 20:17
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AlbertoT
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Well I am not a biblistic expert but I feel that you , along with many other religious guys, pretend ignoring , even if in good faith , what Bible really states
I repeat , read Erasmus \ Luther discussion about predestinations
Erasmus tries to convince Luther using common sense arguments
Luther does not even try to counter attach on a logic or human like basis , it would be impossible , of course
It simply says :
" Erasmus, read the bible"
It is the same kind of answers which I and other people have got from NITRO
That said, I dont mean that Nitro and the fundamentalists are not good persons but for sure they are consistent people regardless of the consequences , while progessive Christians want, in my opinion :
"To wear two pair of shoes at the same time "
I dont know wether it makes sense also in Eglish but I suppose you got what I mean
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