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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: D3D]
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08/22/07 17:06
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Ok but i read E6600 ^^ Although Quad core is cool, how many applications/games are make use of this cpu? Maybe it's good to have a mobo that supports QC and wait with buying one now until newer released and price will be lower. I mean will you really notice difference between E6850/Q6600 right now?
It's the common argument, but it's really a quite weak argument nowadays, there are a lot of games and applications that already use multiple cores if available and the number is increasing at a reasonable speed now.
( @Frank what did you use to monitor the cores? I've got a Logitech G15 keyboard that shows core usage in real-time and my quad core uses up to at least 3 cores in the heaviest applications and all 4 cores whilst playing Supreme Commander...)
I wouldn't recommend buying a single core at all, not just because a single core is NOT equal to a single core within a core 2 duo processor even if the Ghz are the same.. Besides I honestly haven't run into any problems whatsoever with either the quad core nor my core 2 duo with any program, even every old game that I own (Win XP-compatible games) run great with my quad core...
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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: Loopix]
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08/23/07 00:57
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would my old DIMM sdram (333Mhz DDR ...not DDR2) work on a ASUS mainboard designed for DDR2 667/533 MHz ram (of course only with 333Mhz!)??
No, DDR2 is not backwards compatible to DDR.
I have had some bad experiences with an ASUS board recently and many others were complaining that their memory did not work (in my case the board was broken and the replacement is now working flawlessly). If you can go with Gigabyte I would recommend those instead of Asus. Either way: once you have picked a mainboard check their website to find out the EXACT brand and type of memory that they support and order that. Don't buy the memory first and then some mainboard.
As for multi-core support:
games are not too well suited for using multiple cores but some do. The important part is that intel has switched its consumer lines almost exclusively to multi-core so you can expect more applications to make use of that. Even without multi-core application support at least the OS can be offloaded to a secondary core but I don't know how much of a speed gain that will net.
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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: D3D]
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08/28/07 20:44
08/28/07 20:44
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The 'Extreme' series has always been the most expensive processors from Intel. It probably has to do with the fact that those are factory-overclocked processors and not many people buy those. I'm thinking their performance is pretty good, but just like Quad Cores some time ago, their price just doesn't match the performance. Since the latest price drop anyone can afford a Q6600, so ... I'd say what are you waiting for?  It will increase performance ... I've played the World in Conflict demo today (great looking and quite heavy game) and it ran better on my Quad Core rig. D3D do you want to play the latest games on their max settings? If yes .. then go for the Quad Core. If you're short on cash or don't play games that often you could theoretically consider a Core 2 Duo, but since the price of the Q6600 is this far down, it's practically a no no... I won't be buying a Core 2 Duo or Dual Core processor anymore, that's for sure...  Quote:
Also why is the C2D Extreme CPU more expensive? The price went up the last few months while other CPU's got cheaper after the Quad core came out.
You mean prices changed at the alternate.nl or azerty.nl stores? That's normal because those prices are based upon their stocks, a fluctuation of about 30 euros at it's max is quite normal. My brother bought his HD2900XT for 360 Euros, I've bought mine for 380 Euros at the same store a bit later...
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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: Matt_Coles]
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09/13/07 15:04
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Ok...I'm about to setup a mid priced but still powerfull machine  Is it reasonable to use the following components (costs 1100$)?? Asus P5KR, Intel P35, Socket 775, 1333FSB Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, Dual Core, 2.66 GHz, 4MB, FSB1333 Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, Socket 775 Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4, 2x1GB, DDR2-800, CL4 Asus EN8800GTS/HTDP/320M, PCI-E, 320MB GDDR3 Samsung HD321KJ, T166S, 7200rpm, 16MB, 320GB, SATA-II NEC AD-7170S, 18x DVD±RW Writer, Double-Layer Corsair CMPSU-520HXEU, 520W, SLI/CF, ATX2.2/EPS Would be great if you could tell me if this would work out  Thanks!
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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: Loopix]
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09/13/07 15:15
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DIY PCs are cheaper in most cases. opteron 170 939 dual-core all the way, what's quadcore for... it's cheap (older socket), fast, giant cache, and it's AMD  -> 110€ comes with excellent cooler socket 939 mainboard -> 40-100€ 2 Gig RAM -> 160€ 2 samsung SATA HDD -> 200€ enermax power supply -> 60€ case (if you don't want to use tzhe old one): 30-50€ this is around 550€ + GFX board of your choice, around 200€. so you don't need to exceed 750€ for a really good PC. use old DVD/CD drives, soundcard, firewire card etc.
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Re: I'm not a hardware nerd...
[Re: broozar]
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09/13/07 15:43
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Ok...I'm about to setup a mid priced but still powerfull machine
Seems like a good system to me Loopix.
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this is around 550€ + GFX board of your choice, around 200€. so you don't need to exceed 750€ for a really good PC.
I think you'll need more than just a good GFX card to have a PC that's still powerful enough to play some of the newer games. Honestly, I don't think an Opteron dual core would be a wise decision if you want to have some power for future or recently released games (you won't get the latest AMD dual core for 110€).
I wouldn't buy a Geforce8800 GTS when your processor isn't going to be a fast one too. It's not a good idea to safe money on your processor, it'll only become a bottleneck.
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Yes I looked at Alternate online store. Anyways i've ordered the Q6600 and going to sell my E6850 to someone else. Also ordered another CPU cooler from ASUS, because I read the Q6600 get very hot with standard fan.
Yes, it does become rather hot and the stock cooler clearly isn't up to it's task. It's a great choice though if you like to play games and want to be prepared for future games too.
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