@A.Russel - thanks. I'm trying to wrap (or unwrap) the ideas and everything helps.

In the engine, her nose can't be seen from front on. not that it is so bad. Noses are ugly things anyway. However, if anyone has a good way of puting texture on to show the nose elegantly, please let me know.

its cuz the skin gots no shading... add some shading to it.. "simulate" the light sources.... darken the sides of nose.. brighten where light shines etc. not onmly on nose.. but every where...

Well I'm not sure if you have or not but maybe some nostruals?

Look at pictures of online magazins. Especially photographs of women's faces in frontview with smooth light (because there are smooth shadows ).
Something like this, here.


If you work with photoshop, add one 'plain'(german: Ebene) for the shadows and one for the highlights - so you can change the 'strengh' of shadow and highlight later through make them more or less transparent. Take a smooth paintbrush.
The shape of your model is perfect for painting on it nostrils and the root of the nose. The shadow under the nose is the darkest one.

Good luck! I like your spy! Another photograph with nostrils that might fit to your sweet spy.

Assuming that you are still using the same head model as above, you will want to go ahead and "break" (split a single vertice into two - one for the nose and one for the face - don't move them though, leave them co-located) a few of the vertices at the bas of the nose. Right now 3DGS does not support smoothing groups or hard edges - by "breaking" the vertices along the bottom of the nose (where the nostrils will be) you will effectively create a hard edge - this will allow in game lighting to create an actual shadow there.

Once that is out of the way pop back into Photoshop and apply a lighter color near the tip of the nose and a couple darker lines along the sides. Then you want to blend it all together nice and smooth like to make it look realistic. You will want to work on a copy of the skin for that, since you will probably goof once or twice while you work on getting the right technique.

I still haven't been able to animate the dress. If anyone can tell the settings I need to make Motion Designer work properly, please let me know.

Since that might not happen, I'm going to try to animate it using bones from now.

I'm going to keep trying to animate it until the end of the day. If I fail to have animated it by then, her dress will be chopped to a static minskirt so that I can still get it finshed by the end of the competition.

Its a nice looking model Russell, wish i could make something even that close.

hehe do have to comment you like women with 'lofty' chest areas though ( your sig and the model) would like to see the rest of the pic for your sig someday

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It's kind of ironic that I live in Japan isn't it?

You should be able to model something like that. It's only my first attempt. If you think that's good for a first attempt, you should see Jacknine's work.

Kind of a shame I'm going to have to knock the dress back, but animating in Lightwave is hell. I've discovered that to weight the model I have to go back and work on it again in Modeler ,and re-do and save the entire skeleton, including arranging the heirachy, in a different way to what I did last time just to get the weight mapping on it . Then, after that, there is no automated way to get it out of Lightwave and into Game Studio! Hours and hours of tedium.

I lived in korea for over 4 years so i know how you feel

did you put bones in the dress parts too? think it would be easy to animate the parts then ( i don;t know how to work with bones yet but should make it easier then moving by vertexs)

I don't have lightwave or 3dmax to use for modeling stuck to med or what i can find freeware wise ( my shoestring budget is so limited i have to wear slip on shoes )

I do have 3D canvis whish so frar has been a VERY easy modeler to work with
but only works in .3dC format and yet to find a converter for that format.

Also have Amapi 3D v4.15 ( commercial modeler that's not that old thats been released as freeware) but i havn't spent much time learning it yet.


have found MANY tutorials on modeling ( some of the sites i've listed on my tutorials list page). i just don't have a sense of balance while working with the modelers yet. found some nice tips on how to animate without bones without messing up the meshs. guess i just need the time to work on it ( which i don't seem to have)