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Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Leonardo] #178489
01/19/08 18:34
01/19/08 18:34
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I believe we have provided enough info to support our claims! Read the posts above



I have, I just think it's not very nice to criticize someone's personality like that.

Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: JetpackMonkey] #178490
01/19/08 18:38
01/19/08 18:38
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Did I miss something? We are supposed to give constructive critisism for every game that has been posted in this forum, and I believe that RanMan does read this post, so he could learn a thing or two. And the reason for discussing this part of his personality, is the above-mentioned critisism, because it pretty much relates to the quality of his game. By not being so stubborn, I believe RanMan CAN make a decent game! It is not meant as an insult or whatever, just a suggestion.


"Things of the mind left untested by the senses are useless."
Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Leonardo] #178491
01/19/08 20:25
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Stubborness is a most usefull charakteristika...it helps producing original and authentic games...

...the rest is a matter of taste

Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Loopix] #178492
01/19/08 23:02
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but I do not agree in blatantly lying to yourself...



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...considering a 1.5Ghz PC a low-end PC, isn't nice!


isn't that a bit hypocritical? saying 1.5Ghz is NOT low-end is an example of "blatantly lying to yourself"

RanMan definitely has unique tastes. from what i see, he's very ambitious. racing games are my favourite genre (as broad as that genre is) but it still has to be done well to be good. the presentation is undeniably bad, but i remember some positive comments about the gameplay. can we get any comments from people who've played it about how well it plays?

julz


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Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: JibbSmart] #178493
01/19/08 23:46
01/19/08 23:46
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RanMan did well!
And of course he did it for fun ^^.

I guess those who take this too serious don't get the british sense of humor either.

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Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Joozey] #178494
01/20/08 01:07
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I dont understand how its rude to say someone is stubborn.... if they are? now if I had out right insulted him... called him stupid etc... it would be an issue. If I was acting stubborn I'd want someone to tell me so I could notice and fix the problem.

Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: JibbSmart] #178495
01/20/08 01:38
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JulzMighty: 1st of all, a 1.5Ghz computer was mentioned because of the specs in RanMan's game, and I think everyone would agree that a minimum of 1.5Ghz and a recomended computer with 2Ghz processing power, is not adequate for a game like this! And my computer (1.5Ghz ) can run most of the games today, though excluding such video-card explosions like Crysis, etc. And the games I have made all run on my PC and they also run smoothly on a laptop that is considered old in these times. And although they are casual games, there is not much difference in the graphics and programming, compared to this game!
But I agree, RanMan is ambitious, though don't forget - a computer game doesn't consist of only one part. A good game needs to have multiple positive sides to be even considered playable. A simple ambition is not enough, and if I made a game like this, I would want people to tell me the truth, tell me that I am stubborn and tell me about the things I need to change, not lie to me that the game is awesome! A game that needs a massive make-over cannot be considered awesome, I hope you will agree with me here.
Speaking about the reviews from people who have actually played the game - it won't be easy to receive such reviews, considering how many people have bought this game! ^^
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing RanMan with these posts, but I am just pointing out the flaws in his game and also in this community. To be honest, I'm starting to get a feeling, that most of the people here are TOO nice (yes,you CAN be too nice) with their posts and are afraid to speak their minds, to tell what they really think of a game like this!

I'm done! ^^


"Things of the mind left untested by the senses are useless."
Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Leonardo] #178496
01/20/08 02:24
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and if I made a game like this, I would want people to tell me the truth, tell me that I am stubborn and tell me about the things I need to change, not lie to me that the game is awesome!





If I was to release a game like this I'd insist people to say it's awesome, whether they mean it or not . I would know that my game is way worse than crysis, or even nintendo supermario bross, why would I want to hear again. It's not like I get any constructive comments on how to improve it anyway, at least, I have read NONE here. I think RanMan is just happy to achieve a finished project that contains the things he wants, and I bet, as I can read in his posts througout the years, humour is a big part of that.

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Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Joozey] #178497
01/20/08 06:09
01/20/08 06:09
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he knows his audience and made a game for them that fits and works. the target (kids in this case) neither play crysis nor do they care about visuals as long the game is fun.
and as a matter of fact, the things most people complain about, the voices, the funny running the "acting" and the weired setting and story are exactly what the kids like about it. crazy=good...cannons shoting horses and rhinos works for them more then any bumpmap shader or pathfinding could ever do.

and to be honest, whenever i see his weired videos i have to lough. and frankly this is more emotion then i get from 90% of all the other games i test and/or play.

i would say: job well done!

plus: all this ranting and debating only shows that the game must have something or else nobody would care about it. it might be trash or something else, but at least it got something.

i know that ranman had quite a hard time during development. And i salute his passion to stick to the development till the game is finished. he had enough reasons to drop it, but not only did he made it, he made it twice!

and the icing: all this discussion and youtubing, ranting and posting will help him share more demos, sell more copies and show him he was on the right track.

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Re: KOTAKU Article - Zoo Racing [Re: Blattsalat] #178498
01/20/08 07:39
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plus: all this ranting and debating only shows that the game must have something or else nobody would care about it. it might be trash or something else, but at least it got something.




Well thats the reason tho that I am sad... not because I have a problem with the game, its the very opposite. There was so much missed potential in this game. Not that I think its that bad the way it is, but with a very small amount of extra work it could have been quite a bit better and reached a much larger demographic.

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