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Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes #18427
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We recently released a new version of our dancing 3d girls (done with A5), this time it's bikini babes, for a more mainstream market. We won third place in the Summer 2002 Conitec Contest with our demo of 3D Kittens, and Bikini3D is very similar to that demo, but with different environment graphics (it's a beach type club) and of course bikini babes.

You can download a free demo at http://www.bikini3d.com . I hope you enjoy it.



Thanks!
Jak

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: jaknine] #18428
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WOW It´s beautiful, it´s fantastic,
it´s sexy. It´s fun!
Wow, I would buy the game!


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Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: jaknine] #18429
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Nice models. I actually tried to buy one of your packages, but your payment system didn't like my card (funny, everyone else loves it).

One thing I've always wondered about programs like this is, how do you get the models to dance to the beat of the music?

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: A.Russell] #18430
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There are a few ways to do this, it works similar to having a lipsync type system...
im guessing just have animations for differnt types of movements,and depending on the different "sounds" (parts int he music int his case) it would play that animation.. now this is probably not hwo they did it, just my little "theory" :P

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: VPrime] #18431
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Why the babe has no shading?

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: jaknine] #18432
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Doesn't look bad, but you didn't change much since the contest 2002, did you?

I would recommend you to update to a6 with the new lighting system and the bone animations, that would really improve the visual quality. And with the latest a6 version (still in beta) you could even add some shaders (per-pixel lighting, shape blending...).

Anyway, I would rework the security system.

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: Alexander Esslinger] #18433
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Nice Animations, Where Did you get the motion capturing data.
Did you make it yourself?

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes #18434
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Quote:

Why the babe has no shading?



Shading in A5\A6 is done on a per frame basis and does not interpolate between those frames. When the shading is too noticable it looks like it jumps on every frame of animation. I've seen people mention it here in the forum as "dancing shadows". Because of this we had to strike a very fine balance in the contrast of the shading.

Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: Alexander Esslinger] #18435
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Doesn't look bad, but you didn't change much since the contest 2002, did you?



Like I say, this is just a newer version of what we've been selling since 2002 with Strip Kittens, the only difference is that the Bikini3D girls don't get naked. But see the next section for more on this...

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I would recommend you to update to a6 with the new lighting system and the bone animations, that would really improve the visual quality. And with the latest a6 version (still in beta) you could even add some shaders (per-pixel lighting, shape blending...).




We used A5.51 at one point for some newer Strip Kittens girls and got a ton of complaints from previous users (and demo downloaders) that the new versions did not work on their older video cards (due to the newer way it handled DX). Most of our customers are repeat customers, meaning they buy every girl we come out with, so that was a huge problem. Because of this, we reverted back to A5.24 and re-released those particular girls. We would have loved to use A6 for the Bikini3D girls but the whole point of this project was to make money and a large portion of our traffic base are using older video cards so we kept with what we knew would work on the largest base of computers. We would try the new A6 betas for Bikin3D if we intended on continuing with the 3D girl programs, but we've moved on the other projects and at this point there's not a whole lot of sense in fixing what isn't broken.

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Anyway, I would rework the security system.



After 10 years in the game development industry I've picked up on a security theory that I follow myself. There is no sense in spending more than a small amount of time and money developing a totally secure system, as that system will be broken in days. We knew Strip Kittens (and Bikini3D) would be popular on the warez boards and that anything we did would be cracked anyway, so why spend the extra time and money trying to fight it beyond a few simple measures to scare off the casual pirates? We're not in this to write secure systems, we're in it to have fun and make money. People will steal no matter what system you have in place.


Re: Bikini3D - Dancing 3D Bikini Babes [Re: Damocles] #18436
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Thanks everyone for the comments.

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A.Russell: I actually tried to buy one of your packages, but your payment system didn't like my card (funny, everyone else loves it).



Hmmm. I'm not sure why as we use a third party payment processor, but there are several ways to get Bikini3D besides just a credit card. Other than that you might want to contact RegNow (our credit processor) for more info on why your card wasn't acepted.

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Damocles: Nice Animations, Where Did you get the motion capturing data.
Did you make it yourself?



We purchased a basic dance motion capture online and then finessed it for the final result.

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