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Why Time travelling isn't possible... #190158
03/25/08 11:54
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At 14:52:28, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Reporting my first temporal excursion since joining IATT: have just returned from 1936 Berlin, having taken the place of one of Leni Riefenstahl's cameramen and assassinated Adolf Hitler during the opening of the Olympic Games. Let a free world rejoice!

At 14:57:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Back from 1936 Berlin; incapacitated FreedomFighter69 before he could pull his little stunt. Freedomfighter69, as you are a new member, please read IATT Bulletin 1147 regarding the killing of Hitler before your next excursion. Failure to do so may result in your expulsion per Bylaw 223.

http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html




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Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Michael_Schwarz] #190159
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LOL Fabulous reading and a great laugh, was this add hock?
[Edit]nevermind, read the footer

Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Nems] #190160
03/25/08 12:49
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Woo, if there was no hitler, there would've not been 1TB hdd's for so damn cheap


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Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Inestical] #190161
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Very nice found!

Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Michael_Schwarz] #190162
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Quote:

no Hitler means no Third Reich, no World War II, no rocketry programs, no electronics, no computers, no time travel. Get the picture?




Very interesting but it's a flawed story, according to the very same idea you can't kill Hitler and go back 'fixing the error'.

Although it's all theoretical as far as my knowledge goes, this is based on a certain assumption. The idea that you can actually change the past when it already happened, but I think that's not possible.

After all, it already happened the way it did, whether we were part of it as time travelers going back in time taking a look or not does not change that. Lets assume someone does indeed go back and tries to assassinate Hitler, that person will fail for a multitude of reasons. One of them being that indeed it's likely that the whole chain of events after the rise of Hitler would not have happened and there would not be a time machine in the future. Then ... how could you have traveled from the future back in time when there was no time machine? You obviously can't travel without a time machine. So either you can't really change history, or time travel is not possible because one wrong step could trigger a different chain of events erasing important things from the future including the time travelers, ..... which either way means you can't change history,

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Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: PHeMoX] #190163
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@Phemox: Thats the Famous Time Travveling Paradoxon ;-)


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Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Michael_Schwarz] #190164
03/25/08 13:56
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some theories say, that changes create alternate dimensions.
if you assasinate hitler, you will create an alternate time. you cannot travel back into your own dimension after that, but live in a hitler free world...

Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: sPlKe] #190165
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interesting question, that causes many paradoxes, such as meeting yourself in the past, and changing your own memories and so on. i'd like to learn more about it

Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: Michael_Schwarz] #190166
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Quote:

@Phemox: Thats the Famous Time Travveling Paradoxon ;-)




Of course it is , you are right. I merely just realized how much sense it actually makes. ;-) Still... it's basically based on a few assumptions too.

It's an incredibly interesting subject.

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Re: Why Time travelling isn't possible... [Re: PHeMoX] #190167
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Taking into consideration that time is just another dimension - well time travelling may actually be possible.
The question what influences it might have on our world is quite deep and shoking. If you look at "Back to the future"... That guy starts - unwittingly - dating his mum and then almost seizes to exist. As it is there, just the appearance of a person can alter almost everything in our present time.
I think that instead of creating a time machine - if that would be possible - humanity could work on a different gadget, something like a world simulation program, that can set you back to any time you want to, but in a secured surrounding. Off course this would not offer you total historical acuracy, but people would get to experience gone times and not be endangered to harm anybody in the process.

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