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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: Inestical] #201648
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awesome, maybe there are Jedi´s and Sith beating the crap of each other in middle of the streets. Yeah, its better to be sucked to another dimension rather than die in a nuclear holocaust.

Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #201658
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There are some true words but more "not" true words.....
A black hole must have an appointed size (i dont know what size it have to be)
to "grow" up! The "mini" - black hole ist not a black hole like the black holes in our space. there ar some differenz. A "mini" black hole exist only for some milli seconds. A real black hole exist billions-trillions years ;-)


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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: maslone1] #201660
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...oh and dont forget... a black hole is not a black hole.
A real black hole is only a pool of matter. The weight of this "matter" is big as it absorb the light! So it look like a "hole". So the effekt is:
- absorb light
- deform the space structure
- and maybe it deform the "time"


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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: maslone1] #201673
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it attrackts light and deforms the time-space continuum. why are you guys questionning proven physical theories? large black holes such as quasars have an extremely long lifespan. this is due to their giantic mass. a black hole loses mass through hawking radiation, which is emitted from the event horizon (no radiation can escape gravity from within the event horizon). when the hole has lost all its mass, it will simply disappear. the smaller the hole, the faster it will collaps due to weight loss. so, this tiny little hole will of course be very dangerous with its lifespan of some nanoseconds.

Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: Joey] #201674
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Yes.... but nobody can guarantee this. The scientist speculate about this "theory"..... but we will se what a small black hole can do \:\)
or not can do ;\)

And you write about "time". Do you know what time is? What is the differenz of 2 object with the same attributes (size, weight, and so on...)?
Only the position in space is not the same. So what is the differenz....
-> think about it \:\) and tell me if you have found an answere....

greetings


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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #201694
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Shouldnt the people have a say in weather or not we want our scientists conducting such dangerous experiments ? What benefit will come from finding the higgs ? The LHC goes on in May 2008 , there is less than a month to stop it , but it shouldnt be allowed to continue. Spread the word.


Contrary to what you seem to think, these people know exactly what they are doing. Man, people are scared easily these days... the youtube poster doesn't really know what he's talking about. No offense, but did you even bother to look at his other 'doomsday' movies and conspiracy stuff to check his non-existent credibility? ;\)


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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: PHeMoX] #201728
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Well the problem arises when you realise that scientists actually DON'T know what they are doing , for if they did , they wouldnt need to conduct the experiments. One of our big flaws is blindly believing they know everything. Let me put things into perspective for you , we have no idea what causes gravity , can you believe that , they just dont know , they dont know what causes lightning (if you dont believe me do some research on it), They just discovered a new planet in 2003, their "standard model" just doesnt add up (by their own account) ,this people dont know as much as you all think they do, i've looked into their "theories" , and most are not much more than observations. They are looking for the boson higgs , a theoretical particle which plays some role in creation of mass , this particle was thought up , to make their model fit more properly, however , there is ZERO evidence of it's existance , which is the main purpose of this big experiment , in which more than likely they will find nothing. To the guy saying mini black holes dissapear , when have we seen this happen ? You say they are different than the big black holes and that the big black holes have been hehre for trillions of years , yeah , but they originated sometime from somewhere , we dont know how black holes behave , in fact , black holes were only accepted as being abundant some years ago , we still have no idea of what they are , we've just come to understand they are everywhere in our universe and play an important role (there's a massive one in the center of every galaxy) .

But dont be fooled by what you read (yeah mini black holes just evaporate) LOL , there is no prove that happens , it could happen , but it could as well just grow. They've also said the machine has the potential to create a black hole every second , there's also the posibility of black holes joining , and growing. If you think about that they actually know (very little , almoost everything is speculation) , then you realize the real chance of a black hole evaporating to a black hole growing and swallowing the earth is 50/50. Here are some links to articles discussing what happened with their fist test of the lhc.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=particle-collider-magnet
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6522189.stm
You so blindly believe this people know what will happen when dealing with the unknown when they make simple mistakes designing a machine with components we're familiar with ?

You have to be INSANE to just believe creation of mini black holes and strangelets post no threat , or be seriously brain washed by the science community. After much research of many many things science related , I came to the conclusion that we really dont know much about anything , most everything is observations and theories , so you shouldnt just believe something because you see it in a book , it could just be an accepted idea , rather than fact.

Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #201734
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The hole is a lie!

Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: FBL] #201735
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Yeah, they need the black holes to develop a secret portalgun :0 noone can stop this project!


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Re: (LHC)Large Hadron Collider endangers earth [Re: PHeMoX] #201744
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I can't imagine a better way of death than being swallowed by a black hole. I think, this is the best way of death at all...


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