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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: amy] #203645
04/23/08 08:48
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@JCL:
Maybe physx too but, dont we need to pay for physx license if we build a commerical game(just wondering, im not gonna build a commerical game in next 20 years \:D ) , or it's enough to Conitec have the license and implement physx in engine?

@Felixsg:
Bullet also supports cloth & wire physics.


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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Quad] #203658
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I personally dislike PhysX for the same reason amy mentioned. Placing a .dll inside your installation folder is a much more convenient way than forcing the user to install a certain driver.


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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Uhrwerk] #203690
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As far as I know, Microsoft is still developing a physics component for directX. Ageia was bought by nvidia, so it's possible that PhysX will be completly removed some day...

I don't like the ODE engine, too ;\)

Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Zapan@work] #203692
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Please don´t wait another 2 or 3 years just because it is unsure how all this CUDA and physics on the GPU stuff will turn out. \:\) A better physics solution already could be had now.

Isn´t direct physics only a rumor based on this job posting from two years ago?

Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: amy] #204107
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No one likes ode :P
I would really favourite newton. Currently I use it and it's great to work with. + newton 2.0 will have a lot of great new features.

Newton is fast, robust, accurate and easy to use
*votes4newton*

Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Scorpion] #204186
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I would like PhysX because it's NextGen and has stunning features! I guess that the support of PhysX will bring a lot of new customers for conitec ;

You can already use Newton, so it's not logical to implent it also as standard physic engine.

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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Dark_samurai] #204189
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@Dark_samurai: You could also use PhysX or any other pyhsics-engine if you want... that's not the point ;\)


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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Christian__A] #204190
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You just have to implement it in a plugin ;\)


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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: bstudio] #204191
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@Dark_samurai: You could also use PhysX or any other pyhsics-engine if you want... that's not the point ;\)


Ok that's right, but for beginners or even advanced users it won't be easy to make such a plugin. And the Newtonplugin is already there.
And of course it's timeconsuming! This is why gamestudio has a built in physic engine.
The only problem with PhysX is the additional installation of the physic driver (mentioned above). But I like the thought that we will be able to make use of the physX cards or even the new grafic cards with the physic processors.

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Re: Bullet instead of ODE [Re: Dark_samurai] #204200
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You can already use Newton, so it's not logical to implent it also as standard physic engine.


But it's hard to do, because you have to code everything from scratch to get that work... you could also use physiX in gamestudio the same way.

@topic
The big disadvantage of physiX is the size..especially for indi developers, who share their games over the internet it'd not really be a good implementation

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