It's easy money, nothing else.

Seriously though, all those über mainstream and very casual Wii games are all quite crappy in terms of interesting gameplay. I'm not saying there are no good games among them and it has little to do with whether or not Dungeons and Dragons is an actual game, but they just seem to have destroyed the more hardcore game line-up we used to have on the older Nintendo consoles.

It's like every Wii game plays like the old Duckhunt for the NES, sure it's a fun game and good, but also incredibly boring after a short while. That's true for a lot of Wii games. You can say what you want about the Xbox360 and PS3 and most critique probably is true, but at least most games have a lot more depth than the average Wii game has.

that is simply nmot true.
12 out of the 23 million sellers for wii (not including wii play/sports) are hardcore games. thats more than the half. only 2!!! are casual games and the rest are party games.

sure, there are alot of casual games on the wii, but there are also alot of hardcore games that simply and plain just suck.

a complete list reveals more hardcore games than casual games, and also alot of party games.

source: VGChartz.com, wikipedia list of wii games

Well now, you seem to be slightly missing my point.

I didn't mean all or most Wii games are casual games, I meant to say all Wii games have little depth and are too casual-game like when it comes to difficulty, depth, story, controls and so on.



...which sort of proves my point. Nintendo doesn't seem to care so much about these hardcore games anymore. Their quality control used to be one of the best, but there's so much crap getting released for the Wii, it's insane.



Are you talking about sold games, and do you mean 12 million hardcore and 2 million casual games?

the hardore games that suck are not developed from nintendo. there are shitloads of old crappy games on old nintendo consoles, all not developed by nintendo. nothing has changed there...

no, i mean, the wii has 23 games that sold more than one million copies. out of those 23, 12 games are hardcore gamer games. 2 games are casual, and the rest are party games.

don't forget games like GTA4 and other big titles are coming out on the big consoles, but not wii, only small titles are coming out on wii, and nintendo are missing out on all these great titles, just because they wanted a console that was totaly different.

surely i'm not the only one who thinks that the vast majority of party games can be classed as casual?

julz

Mafia 2 will be out for PC and will beat all GTA games easily

But seriously:
Wii has a few advantages. They have funny casual games, family games, (plus hardcore games) and the price is much lower compared to PS3 and XBox360.

That is a reason for many beginners, young and older people to give it a try.
This approach was a good one and prooved to be successful for Nintendo.

By the way: there are powerful engines now available to allow beautiful graphics on Wii as you can see here (Quantum engine from High Voltage software):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hkNguFQBAqQ

My personal point of view:
I ignore all consoles because I work daily on PC, modelling, painting textures, programming software. If I take some time to relax then I can play fantastic epic games like Witcher, Mafia, QuakeWars without the need of a console. But if I want to play with my kids anytime in the future I would instantly get something like the Wii instead of PS3, just for the sake of fun and family play.

gta 4.... its a comment as silly as saying: WOW is only for PC...
maybe you dont know, but there are people who DONT like GTA style games. besides, the wii has more than 6 GTA style games, some of them good, some of them bad.

i for one, dont care about GTA games. i love me my zelda style games, and thus, the wii is it for me. zelda, backwards compatibility to gamecube, the vritual console with classics liek neutopia, okami, starfox adventures, the metroid prime series (rumor has it 1+2 will be wii-ified) classic castlevania games, the good old days of SNES RPG (still missing out on them, but wait a year, you´ll be surprised)... stuff im wouldnt want to miss. PS360 (as i call the other two) have nice graphics, some online and stuff, but thats stuff i can get from my PC IF i want to (i dont, dont ask)... so i think those two consoles are, FOR ME, rather pointless...

I own a Wii, too, and the XBOX360 would be the only other system that I would like to have, too. I really like possibility to download demos, addons, user maps, etc. from Microsoft. Nintendo is currently far beyond that and I really don't know why they did so. Is it because the Wii has only Wifi support? Seriously, why not adding a standard network socket to it??

Another point of interest is the XNA argument: everyone is able to create applications and games for the XBOX360. You have to pay a small fee, though, to load it on your XBOX, but it is way better than how it works with Wii-Ware. Actually, it is easier for small teams and companies, but individuals aren't allowed to do so. So, you can only go the homebrew way or develop with a PC middleware engine like GS (when the Wii-mote stuff is ready, though).

I would advise people to buy BOTH systems, if they have the money.

Well, I for one totally agree with this.




I understand.