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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: HeelX]
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06/25/08 07:31
06/25/08 07:31
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FBL
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This has been done with the last contest (and with earlier contests as well for sure) and for this reason I lost one place. Well I did not really complain as I was just too lazy to post in other forums to register. I wasn't going to win 1st price anyway. Face it - this will always happen, and it's not forbidden either. The discussion comes up every contest, and Conitec should really re-think the role of user votes when quality of entries is even. Sorry for not downloading, playing, watching, commenting your hard work. Currently I have no proper internet access, so I can only do some basic stuff, like wasting time in forums
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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: FBL]
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06/25/08 12:13
06/25/08 12:13
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Pappenheimer
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Face it - this will always happen, and it's not forbidden either. But it is disappointing! Very disappointing. Maybe, in business it is common, that the success counts solely - not my attitude though, because it spoils my feelings and my motivation. But, in a contest like this? It is for honor. Does anyone feel honor when he knows it is _not_ only by the free appreciation of the voters?
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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: Pappenheimer]
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06/25/08 12:33
06/25/08 12:33
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JibbSmart
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as kasimir said, conitec has a huge say in it. until we saw amy's incriminating evidence we still saw much praise for a7titude. we have a gradual public voting system but in the end the jury can choose whichever winner they want; if they look at this thread and feel that one deserves less of their support than it may have gotten in an a7-community-only vote, i'm sure they'll act somewhat appropriately.
it's totally fair to point out that HeelX has gathered support from elsewhere, but it's not fair to act so sour about it.
there are at least a couple of entries that deserve first-place one way or another, and in the end it'll only be the deserving that'll make the cut.
julz
Formerly known as JulzMighty. I made KarBOOM!
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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: ventilator]
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06/25/08 13:00
06/25/08 13:00
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yes, and because of that discussion shortly before the deadline i have provided a second version which doesn't use obfuscated code and tricks like that. have you seen my second version? i only had to leave away the sound effects and the dust to stay within the limits. Thats one of the primary reasons I voted for Ventilator's code, because he made it all easy to understand and thus we would be able to implement it in our own game. Plus his game was fun and original. Having a tractor beam to pull opponents was creative. It was also humorous because it involved the "gamestudio knights". So it was funny, creative, fun, and had useable code. Pretty good. I did think that ventilator should have put more work into making the level look better and the tractor beam could look a little cooler, but since I can adapt the code if I wanted to it is no problem. I thought a7itude was a very creative and nice looking game, better looking design than knights on wheels, but the voting should have stayed in the community as far as I am concerned. We all could get our friends to make accounts and vote. But its not fair. I think next time voting should be restricted to people with over 100 posts.(I dont know how they would implement that with ubb) Maybe the best solution would be for people just to make a post of who they want to win, that way we could see who voted and why.
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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: Joozey]
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06/25/08 18:20
06/25/08 18:20
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kasimir
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two things i like to say: is not nice that Heelix use this way to win, also the code isn't nice, but it is important to underline his idea - this is perfect! (in my opinion) it is also fact, that the idea is quite simple - and this was the meanining of the contest! he packed a whole/closed game into 100 lines! Thats one of the primary reasons I voted for Ventilator's code, because he made it all easy to understand and thus we would be able to implement it in our own game.
Yes i think too, his car-physik is very nice and usefull! His code (without sounds) is very simple and easy to understand! But i think his game is unfinished, i miss something like a "winner-screen" and in my opinion the tractor-beam isn't necassary (i don't use them)
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Re: Summer 2008 demos uploaded
[Re: kasimir]
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06/25/08 19:51
06/25/08 19:51
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My opinion on cheating: It's understandable that the most participiants are angry about people which are cheating. But in the Conitec contest the bigger part is jugded by Conitec, as someone already mentioned. Some years ago I did take part in the Conitec contest. After the voting my entry was on the 2nd or 3rd place. But together with the Conitec judge I was on the 1st place and won. So you see, even if it is not nice if others cheating, don't worry about it, Conitec will be choose the best one
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