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[DE/EN]client connecting problem #209350 06/02/08 16:54 06/02/08 16:54
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen V virtualmarctek OP Junior Member
virtualmarctek OP Junior Member V Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen	[DE] ich war dabei ein kleines MP spiel zu basteln, es geht auch au�er diesen einen Punkt: [BILD SIEHE UNTEN] Wisst ihr woran er liegen kann? [EN] I started to create a Multiplayer GAme, it works but theres an error. Do you know how ti fix it? Fehler/Error mfg, Marc V.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #209351 06/02/08 16:58 06/02/08 16:58
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen V virtualmarctek OP Junior Member
virtualmarctek OP Junior Member V Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen	[DE] OK den fehler hab ich behoben in dem ich ein -sn gesetzt habe. Aber jetzt l�d der das Spiel nicht, ich bleibe immer beim Schwarzem Bildschirm stecken. Hat denn keiner eine Antwort? [EN] OK I fixed it with adding an -sn but now it doesn't load, it stops with an black screen. Has nobody an Answer? Last edited by virtualmarctek; 06/05/08 15:56. mfg, Marc V.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #213377 06/27/08 12:20 06/27/08 12:20
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33 Russia/Netherlands H Hand_Of_Law Newbie
Hand_Of_Law Newbie H Joined: May 2008 Posts: 33 Russia/Netherlands	If you are working in Vista, add a port number. As far as the 'why', there is not enough information

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: Hand_Of_Law] #213891 07/01/08 12:27 07/01/08 12:27
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen V virtualmarctek OP Junior Member
virtualmarctek OP Junior Member V Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen	I dont use Vista I work unter XP, the problem is, that after connecting to the server there is a black screen mfg, Marc V.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #213894 07/01/08 12:43 07/01/08 12:43
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,032 Croatia croman Serious User
croman Serious User Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,032 Croatia	you get a blank screen because there's no connection (your client is not connected to a server) and you have inside your code some line that is preventing level load until client is connected. I had same problem and the following worked for me: #for server mine cmd line looked like this: >> -sv -cl -port 2300 << and i forwarded that port. if you don't know what forwarding ports is then be free to ask, i'll explain it to you. #for client mine cmd line looked like this: >> -cl -ip localhost << for testing on one pc and >> -cl -ip somenumber << for online testing hope this has been hellpfull to you. Ubi bene, ibi Patria.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: croman] #213910 07/01/08 13:33 07/01/08 13:33
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen V virtualmarctek OP Junior Member
virtualmarctek OP Junior Member V Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen	i have a connection the server sais that the client is connected, i tried the same in Lite-C (Its Locoweeds MP Tutorial with removed weapons). So please try to look at this: http://www.coniserver.net/ubb7/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=210274#Post210274 mfg, Marc V.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #213913 07/01/08 13:37 07/01/08 13:37
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,032 Croatia croman Serious User
croman Serious User Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,032 Croatia	well...i'll tell you what...are you a new to mp programming? if you are then you should start with smaller steps. i tried to make my first mp game by removing some code from loco's mp tut but i figuered that it's the wrong approach. so i started from the very beginning and i made it. i created connection, player and moving and it all worked perfectly. so if you are a noob in mp programming tell and i can send you that basic mp code of mine. Last edited by cerberi_croman; 07/01/08 13:38. Ubi bene, ibi Patria.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #213914
07/01/08 13:38 07/01/08 13:38

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Here is my Code in C-Script:

Server:

Code:

// BMAPS
bmap pcxArrow = <arrow.pcx>;
bmap bmpMAN = <man.bmp>;
bmap bmpWOMAN = <woman.bmp>; 
bmap pcxTitle = <title.pcx>;
bmap pcxSelect = <select.pcx>;

// Defines
define FALSE, 0;
define TRUE, 1;
define PROF_MAN, 1;
define PROF_WOMAN, 2;
define PLAYER_NUMBER, skill1;
define SCORE, skill2;
define PROFESSION, skill3;
define SPEED, skill4;
define HEALTH, skill5;
define MAX_HEALTH, skill6;
define ARMOR_CLASS, skill7;

// Fonts
font arial_schrift="Arial",0,12;

// Panels

panel pnlMan
{
	bmap bmpMAN;
	layer = 21;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	on_click = set_prof_man;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlWoman
{
	bmap bmpWOMAN;
	layer = 21;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	on_click = set_prof_woman;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlTitle
{
	bmap = pcxTitle;
	layer = 18;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlSelect
{
	bmap = pcxSelect;
	layer = 18;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

// Strings
string clientstring = "Dies ist keine Clientversion, sodern ein Server! Bitte holen Sie sich die Clientversion um dieses Spiel spielen zu k�nnen";
string world_str = <level.wmb>;
string MAN = <man.mdl>;
string WOMAN = <woman.mdl>;
string str_people_connected;
string str_temp;

// Vars
var fps_max = 60;
var fps_lock = ON;
var video_mode = 7;
var video_screen = 2;
var mouse_mode = 2;
var MAX_CONNECTIONS = 8;
var people_connected = 0;
var number_of_players = 0;
var server_says_start = FALSE;
var profession_ID;
var temp_loc[3];
var vecFrom[3];
var vecTo[3];
var profession_not_Set = TRUE;

// Texts
text client_text
{
font=arial_schrift;
pos_x=20;
pos_y=200; 
string=clientstring;
}

text txt_people_connected
{
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 65;
	layer = 15;
	font arial_schrift;
	string str_people_connected;
}

// Display Info
function display_info()
{
	while(1)
	{
		str_cpy(str_people_connected, "People Connected: ");
		str_for_num(str_temp, people_connected);
		str_cat(str_people_connected, str_temp);
		wait(1);
	}
}

//Move MAN
action move_man
{
	my.profession = PROF_MAN;
	move_player();
}

//Move WOMAN
action move_woman
{
	my.profession = PROF_WOMAN;
	move_player();
}

// Move Player
function move_player()
{
	my.pan = random(360);
	while(1)
	{
		wait(1);
	}
}

// Set Prof Man
function set_prof_man()
{
	profession_ID = PROF_MAN;
	profession_not_Set = FALSE;
}

// Set Prof Woman
function set_prof_woman()
{
	profession_ID = PROF_WOMAN;
	profession_not_set = FALSE;
}

// init display
function init_display()
{
	pnlTitle.pos_y = screen_size.y/2 + 100;
	pnlTitle.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 -150;
	pnlTitle.alpha = 75;
	pnlSelect.pos_y = screen_size.y/2 -100;
	pnlSelect.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 -150;
	pnlSelect.alpha = 75;
	pnlMan.pos_y = screen_size.y/2;
	pnlMan.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 - 300;
	pnlMan.alpha = 75;
	pnlWoman.pos_y = screen_size.y/2;
	pnlWoman.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 +150;
	pnlWoman.alpha = 75;
	txt_people_connected.pos_x = screen_size.x - 350;
}

// Server Called
function server_called()
{
	if((event_type == event_join) && (people_connected < MAX_CONNECTIONS))
	{
		ifdef server;
			people_connected += 1;
			send_var(people_connected);
		endif;
	}
	if (event_type == event_leave)
	{
		ifdef server;
			people_connected -= 1;
			send_var(people_connected);
			server_says_start = TRUE;
			send_var(server_says_start);
		endif;
	}
}


// On Event
on_server = server_called;

// Create Player
function create_player()
{
	var position_found = FALSE;
	while(position_found == FALSE)
	{
		vecFrom.x = -400 + random(800);
		vecFrom.y = -400 + random(800);
		vecFrom.z = 200;
		vec_set(vecTo,vecFrom);
		vecTo.z = -200;
		trace_mode = IGNORE_SPRITES+IGNORE_PASSENTS+IGNORE_PASSABLE+IGNORE_MODELS+USE_BOX+SCAN_TEXTURE;
		TRACE(vecFrom,vecTo);
		if((str_stri(tex_name,"earthtile") != FALSE)||(str_stri(tex_name,"crator") != FALSE))
		{
			vec_set(temp_loc,vecTo);
			temp_loc.z = target.z + 35;
			if (profession_ID == PROF_MAN)
			{
				player = ent_create(man,temp_loc,move_man);
			}
			if (profession_ID == PROF_WOMAN)
			{
				player = ent_create(woman,temp_loc,move_woman);
			}
			position_found = TRUE;
		}
	}
}

// Main
function main()
{
	//rondomize();
	if (connection == 2)
	{
		while(server_says_start == FALSE)
		{
			wait(1);
		}
	}
	if (connection != 1)
	{
		init_display();
		display_info();
		mouse_mode = 2;
		mouse_on();
		pnlMan.visible = ON;
		pnlWoman.visible = ON;
		pnlTitle.visible = ON;
		pnlSelect.visible = ON;
		if(connection)
		{
			txt_people_connected.visible = ON;
		}
		while(profession_not_set)
		{
			wait(1);
		}
		mouse_off();
		pnlMan.visible = OFF;
		pnlWoman.visible = OFF;
		pnlTitle.visible = OFF;
		pnlSelect.visible = OFF;
		create_player();
	}
ifdef client; 
	client_text.visible=on;
endif;
ifdef server;
diag("\nWillkommen");
diag("\n2nd World Server gestartet");
diag("\n2nd World Server by virtualmarctek");
diag("\nSponsored by ploppGroup");

	while(connection==0)
	{
		wait(1);
	}

endif;
level_load(world_str);
}

// Mouse ON
function mouse_on()
{
	MOUSE_MAP = pcxArrow;
	while(MOUSE_MODE > 0)
	{
		MOUSE_POS.X = POINTER.X;
		MOUSE_POS.Y = POINTER.Y;
		wait(1);
	}
}

// Mouse OFF
function mouse_off()
{
	MOUSE_MODE = 0;
}

Client:

Code:

// BMAPS
bmap pcxArrow = <arrow.pcx>;
bmap bmpMAN = <man.bmp>;
bmap bmpWOMAN = <woman.bmp>; 
bmap pcxTitle = <title.pcx>;
bmap pcxSelect = <select.pcx>;

// Defines
define FALSE, 0;
define TRUE, 1;
define PROF_MAN, 1;
define PROF_WOMAN, 2;
define PLAYER_NUMBER, skill1;
define SCORE, skill2;
define PROFESSION, skill3;
define SPEED, skill4;
define HEALTH, skill5;
define MAX_HEALTH, skill6;
define ARMOR_CLASS, skill7;

// Fonts
font arial_schrift="Arial",0,12;

// Strings
string serverstring = "Dies ist keine Serverversion, sodern ein Client!\n Nur virtualmarctek und welche die von virtualmarctek eine Erlaubnis haben, \n d�rfen einen Server erstellen.";
string world_str = <level.wmb>;
string MAN = <man.mdl>;
string WOMAN = <woman.mdl>;
string str_people_connected;
string str_temp;

// Vars
var fps_max = 60;
var fps_lock = ON;
var video_mode = 7;
var video_screen = 2;
var mouse_mode = 2;
var people_connected = 0;
var number_of_players = 0;
var server_says_start = FALSE;
var profession_ID;
var temp_loc[3];
var vecFrom[3];
var vecTo[3];
var profession_not_Set = TRUE;

// Texts
text server_text
{
font=arial_schrift;
pos_x=20;
pos_y=200; 
string=serverstring;
}

text txt_people_connected
{
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 65;
	layer = 15;
	font arial_schrift;
	string str_people_connected;
}

// Panels

panel pnlMan
{
	bmap bmpMAN;
	layer = 21;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	on_click = set_prof_man;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlWoman
{
	bmap bmpWOMAN;
	layer = 21;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	on_click = set_prof_woman;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlTitle
{
	bmap = pcxTitle;
	layer = 18;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

panel pnlSelect
{
	bmap = pcxSelect;
	layer = 18;
	pos_x = 0;
	pos_y = 0;
	flags = overlay,transparent,refresh;
}

// Display Info
function display_info()
{
	while(1)
	{
		str_cpy(str_people_connected, "People Connected: ");
		str_for_num(str_temp, people_connected);
		str_cat(str_people_connected, str_temp);
		wait(1);
	}
}

//Move MAN
action move_man
{
	my.profession = PROF_MAN;
	move_player();
}

//Move WOMAN
action move_woman
{
	my.profession = PROF_WOMAN;
	move_player();
}

// Move Player
function move_player()
{
	my.pan = random(360);
	while(1)
	{
		wait(1);
	}
}

// Create Player
function create_player()
{
	var position_found = FALSE;
	while(position_found == FALSE)
	{
		vecFrom.x = -400 + random(800);
		vecFrom.y = -400 + random(800);
		vecFrom.z = 200;
		vec_set(vecTo,vecFrom);
		vecTo.z = -200;
		trace_mode = IGNORE_SPRITES+IGNORE_PASSENTS+IGNORE_PASSABLE+IGNORE_MODELS+USE_BOX+SCAN_TEXTURE;
		TRACE(vecFrom,vecTo);
		if((str_stri(tex_name,"earthtile") != FALSE)||(str_stri(tex_name,"crator") != FALSE))
		{
			vec_set(temp_loc,vecTo);
			temp_loc.z = target.z + 35;
			if (profession_ID == PROF_MAN)
			{
				player = ent_create(man,temp_loc,move_man);
			}
			if (profession_ID == PROF_WOMAN)
			{
				player = ent_create(man,temp_loc,move_woman);
			}
			position_found = TRUE;
		}
	}
}

// Set Prof Man
function set_prof_man()
{
	profession_ID = PROF_MAN;
	profession_not_Set = FALSE;
}

// Set Prof Woman
function set_prof_woman()
{
	profession_ID = PROF_WOMAN;
	profession_not_set = FALSE;
}

// init display
function init_display()
{
	pnlTitle.pos_y = screen_size.y/2 + 100;
	pnlTitle.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 -150;
	pnlTitle.alpha = 75;
	pnlSelect.pos_y = screen_size.y/2 -100;
	pnlSelect.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 -150;
	pnlSelect.alpha = 75;
	pnlMan.pos_y = screen_size.y/2;
	pnlMan.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 - 300;
	pnlMan.alpha = 75;
	pnlWoman.pos_y = screen_size.y/2;
	pnlWoman.pos_x = screen_size.x/2 +150;
	pnlWoman.alpha = 75;
	txt_people_connected.pos_x = screen_size.x - 350;
}

// Main
function main()
{
	//rondomize();
	if (connection == 2)
	{
		while(server_says_start == FALSE)
		{
			wait(1);
		}
	}
	if (connection != 1)
	{
		init_display();
		display_info();
		mouse_mode = 2;
		mouse_on();
		pnlMan.visible = ON;
		pnlWoman.visible = ON;
		pnlTitle.visible = ON;
		pnlSelect.visible = ON;
		if(connection)
		{
			txt_people_connected.visible = ON;
		}
		while(profession_not_set)
		{
			wait(1);
		}
		mouse_off();
		pnlMan.visible = OFF;
		pnlWoman.visible = OFF;
		pnlTitle.visible = OFF;
		pnlSelect.visible = OFF;
		create_player();
	}
ifdef client; 
	while(connection==0)
	{
		wait(1);
	}
endif;
ifdef server;
	server_text.visible=on;
	diag("Dies ist keine Serverversion, sodern ein Client!\n Nur virtualmarctek und welche die von virtualmarctek eine Erlaubnis haben, \n d�rfen einen Server erstellen.");
endif;
level_load(world_str);
}

// Mouse ON
function mouse_on()
{
	MOUSE_MAP = pcxArrow;
	while(MOUSE_MODE > 0)
	{
		MOUSE_POS.X = POINTER.X;
		MOUSE_POS.Y = POINTER.Y;
		wait(1);
	}
}

// Mouse OFF
function mouse_off()
{
	MOUSE_MODE = 0;
}

mfg, Marc V.

Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: virtualmarctek] #213938
07/01/08 14:45 07/01/08 14:45

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,032
Croatia

croman

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croman

Serious User

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,032
Croatia

i don't know if you saw my previous post...but anyway i'll post my code here:

game.c

Code:

#include <acknex.h>
#include <default.c>
#include "status.c"
#include "windows.h"
#include "d3d9.h"


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// some global vars, defines...
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
#define force_x skill1
#define force_y skill2
#define force_z skill3
#define force_pan skill4
#define MAX_CONNECTIONS 8

VECTOR camVel;
var force[3];
var vecFrom[3];
var vecTo[3];


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// function prototypes
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
void playerAct();
void inputs();
void server_called();
void client_called();
void donothing(){wait(1);}


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// main function
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
int main()
{
	video_mode = 8;
	video_depth = 32;
	video_screen = 2;
	fps_max = 60; // lock fps at 60 for all players
	fps_lock = ON;
	dplay_smooth = 0; // dplay_smooth is causing too much overshoot and jerks
	
	on_server = server_called; // on server event, call server_called()
   on_esc = donothing;
   
   wait(-.3);
   if(connection == 3){
   	people_connected = 1;
   	str_cpy(messages_str, "Connecting as a HOST...");
   	wait(-3);
   	reset(messages_txt, VISIBLE);
   	set(connected, VISIBLE);
   	set(status, VISIBLE);
   	video_window(NULL,NULL,16,"HOST...");
   }
   if(connection == 2){
   	str_cpy(messages_str, "Connecting as a CLIENT...");
   	wait(-3);
   	reset(messages_txt, VISIBLE);
   	set(connected, VISIBLE);
   	set(status, VISIBLE);
   	video_window(NULL,NULL,16,"CLIENT...");
	}

   level_load("test.wmb");
   wait(-.3);
   player = ent_create("aim.mdl", vector(0,0,100), playerAct);
   wait(-.3);
   
   inputs();
   
    
   while(1)
	{
		again:
		// constantly checks if server is still online
		if(dplay_bps == 0 && dplay_latency == 0 && connection == 2)	{
			if (MessageBox(NULL, "Server is offline and the game will shutdown.", "Error", MB_OK | MB_ICONSTOP) == IDOK){
				sys_exit(NULL);
			}
		}
		if(key_esc){
			while(key_esc){wait(1);}
			if(MessageBox(NULL, "Do you really want to quit?", "Quit?", MB_YESNO | MB_ICONQUESTION) == IDYES){sys_exit(NULL);}
				else{wait(1);goto again;}
		}
		wait(1);
	}
}


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// function for handling inputs
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
void inputs()
{
	while(1){
		player.force_x = (key_w - key_s) * time_step * 15;
		player.force_y = (key_a - key_d) * time_step * 15;
		player.force_pan -= mouse_force.x * 15 * time_step;
		
		if(connection == 2){
			send_skill(player.force_x, SEND_VEC);
			send_skill(player.force_pan, 0);
		}
		
		wait(1);
	}
}


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// move player function
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
void movePl()
{
	while(1){
		my.pan = my.force_pan;
	
		force[0] = my.force_x * 15 * time_step;
		force[1] = my.force_y * 10 * time_step;
		force[2] = 0;
		
		move_mode = GLIDE|IGNORE_PASSABLE|IGNORE_PASSENTS|IGNORE_YOU;
		c_move(my, force, nullvector,move_mode);
	
		if (my.force_x || my.force_y || my.force_z)
		{
			trace_mode = IGNORE_SPRITES|IGNORE_PASSENTS|IGNORE_PASSABLE|IGNORE_MODELS|USE_BOX;
			vec_set(vecFrom,my.x);
			vec_set(vecTo,my.x);
			vecTo[2] -= 400;
			result = c_trace(vecFrom,vecTo,trace_mode);
			my.z = target.z + ((my.max_z - my.min_z)/2);//Set to the floor
		}
		wait(1);
	}
}


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// player action
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
action playerAct()
{
	my.emask |= ENABLE_DISCONNECT;
	my.smask |= NOSEND_FRAME;
	
	c_setminmax(my);
	
	wait(-.3);
	ent_sendnow(my);
	wait(-.3);

	set(me, SHADOW);
	movePl();
}


//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
// function Server_Called(): server was called
//---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
void server_called()
{
	if ((event_type == EVENT_JOIN) && (people_connected < MAX_CONNECTIONS))
	{
		people_connected += 1; // another person connected
		send_var(people_connected); // send number of people connected
	}
	if (event_type == EVENT_LEAVE)
	{
		people_connected -= 1; // one less person connected to server
		send_var(people_connected); // send number of people connected
	}
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------
// player events
//--------------------------------------------------------------------
void player_events()
{
	if (event_type == EVENT_DISCONNECT)
	{
		ent_remove(me); // remove ent of player that quit
	}
}

status.c

Code:

STRING* messages_str = "#50";
var people_connected;
#define player_number skill20
var number_of_players;

FONT* arial_font = "Arial#20";

TEXT* messages_txt =
{
	pos_x = 400;
	pos_y = 300;
   layer = 10;
   font(arial_font);
   string (messages_str);
   flags = visible;
}

PANEL* connected =
{
	pos_x = 10; pos_y = 10;
	digits(0,0,"People connected:  %.f",arial_font,1,people_connected); 
	digits(0,20,"Player name:  %s",arial_font,1,player_name);
}

PANEL* status =
{
	pos_x = 10; pos_y = 10;
	digits(800,0,"x: %.1f",arial_font,1,player.x); 
	digits(800,20,"y: %.1f",arial_font,1,player.y); 
	digits(800,40,"z: %.1f",arial_font,1,player.z); 
	digits(800,60,"pan: %.1f",arial_font,1,player.pan); 
}

you'll need d3d9.h and windows.h header files in that projet folder

one more time, try what i told you in my post two posts before this one

, try forwarding 2300 port...

Last edited by cerberi_croman; 07/01/08 14:50.

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Re: [DE/EN]client connecting problem [Re: croman] #213942 07/01/08 15:15 07/01/08 15:15
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen V virtualmarctek OP Junior Member
virtualmarctek OP Junior Member V Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 68 Germany, Essen	thanks i will try it! I started with a small chat with multiplayer programming! mfg, Marc V.

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