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Add Live Video to Web Site #213970
07/01/08 17:30
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Dan Silverman Offline OP
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I am looking for a way to add live video to a web site. I am teaching a history course and there are a few people that cannot attend, but want to participate in the course live. We don't want to use something like Skype for two main reasons: 1) only one person can view the video at a time and 2) there needs to be someone monitoring the computer to add people to the conference call.

What we want to do is have a page on our web site that allows the end user to click and access a streaming, live video (provided there is any live video at the time). Does anyone have any idea how to do this or what software is needed?

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: Dan Silverman] #213975
07/01/08 18:06
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If you are on local area network, or areas with high capacity connections, I'd be on to the website. Otherwise it might start lagging and the quality is bad.

Normally the software (and instructions) come with the webcam. If not, there are some in the Creative's website.


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Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: Inestical] #214013
07/02/08 00:44
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I am looking for a way to add live video to a web site.
I dont know if it would come from the actual server where your web is, but you could still make it look like it was coming from your website, if you know what I mean. People could still click on your website and access live streaming, but it probably wouldnt actually reside there. Youd want a faster server than your web site produces, especially fast on the upload so that it could suck up the data from the computer which your camera is ctually hooked up to.

Quote:
What we want to do is have a page on our web site that allows the end user to click and access a streaming, live video (provided there is any live video at the time). Does anyone have any idea how to do this or what software is needed?


Hi Dan,
its kind of funny that your asking this question, as I asked the forum this about a week ago;
but it probably didnt show up in the search ebgine when you searched.

Basically I have no idea, however I have been looking around, and I have a few more answers. It gets a little complicated when you want to determine what transfer protocol but Im assuming your going to want to use a specialized unicast media server, given that I would estimate your audience as maxing out at a few hundred right now.

In that case you would probably be interested in the following web site:
unicast In this case you need the window media encoder(which is free) and you would usually shop for a specialized media server set up with at least a t1 internet connection. You could also probably set up your own server if you had the equipment and know how, but thats way beyond my range right now. So you would be paying a high set up fee for the server host, like I have heard $500 but I cant confirm that because there is a lot I still dont know, and also approximately $100 a month ongoing fees.

It also seems to revolve around how many people you have that want to watch, if you want to get into the bigtime with thousands in your audience you are looking at what is called multicasting networks, which can be thousands of dollars for a few hours of broadcast. But if you have a big enough plan and a big enough bankroll even that can be a reality for you.

As I said though, I really dont know too much about it, but it seems pretty straightforward. What you need to do is check with your webhost, call them up and see if they have the ability to

Quote:
Windows 2000 or 2003 server with Windows Media Services installed and running on port 80
High bandwidth upload connection - T1 + suggested.


The process is pretty self-explanatory from the site I linked you to, most of your tech questiuons could be answered by the web host people. But as far as I know, even though youd be broadcasting from a high speed server, you could still set it up so that your audience still visits your website at a certain time, that doesnt seem like it would be a problem at all.

Of course from a financial standpoint it makes sense to have your audience assembled before you broadcast. Like if you had an email mailing list which you could notify before each event. So if costs do become at $100 a month you would be able to meet them. Of course, if your content is "hot" enough there is a certain amount of risk you could be willing to take, but Ill let you do your own marketing as Im sure your pretty capable.

But there are a lot of other issues involved with live webcasting. Since this is something I am also looking into very seriously in the next months, I'll e-mail you later when I really knwo what Im doing and am not just like you...searching for answers. We have the lights and cameras and are starting to send video on you tube for the next couple of weeks, and we definitely are looking 100% seriously into live webcasting in the near future, so I will have more practical advice later.

God Bless
~NITRO

Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: NITRO777] #214015
07/02/08 02:03
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Dan, going down this path puts you right smack in the middle of esentially creating a e-Learning solution for your course which may be more effort than you want to dedicate to this idea!

I would recommend merely going for the quickest ad-hoc solution right now: Upload your content to YouTube and you can then easily embed it's feed on your site and then "wrap" your e-curriculum around that (for example, by having an IM chat feature on your site, locking the feed until it's time for class, and providing a centralized number people can call....boom, instant classroom!!) .

Otherwise, as Nitro did an excellent job of explaining, you may be looking at more money and trouble than it's worth!

Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: fastlane69] #214032
07/02/08 07:01
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http://www.ustream.tv/

may help. ? You can stream live video online and embed it to web page. Viewers can chat in your "show room" and you can see if they ask something.

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Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: Quad] #214035
07/02/08 07:56
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flash offers such possibilities. you can access webcams and they show up immediately. but dont ask me for indepth about this


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Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: ello] #214041
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look into real producer.

http://www.realnetworks.com/products/producer/index.htm

there's a free version with max. 25 clients.

Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: broozar] #214151
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Quote:
http://www.ustream.tv/


LOL That's exactly what I was talking about! YouTube + Chat! Neat!

Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: fastlane69] #214163
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even its + LIVE laugh some funny/good shows to see when you dont want/have to do anything.


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Re: Add Live Video to Web Site [Re: Quad] #214439
07/04/08 15:38
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Obviously Dan is just so filled with gratitude for the help we have given him, that he is absolutely speechless. cool


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