Well, the way things are going right now i think i will be able to finally release the next version of shade-c around the end of august. I'm currently making some additional changes to the "framework" and am playing around with some new shaders i got my hands on. Also while working on an oceanshader i accidentially stumbled over a possible solution to get the dynamic gamma correction for hdr working. Please don't ask how an oceanshader relates to dynamic gamma control, it really just was a lucky accident Now if i get more accidents like this i might be able to release the next version even sooner

:P ok then, it sounds like it's going well. You never answered my questions though

Meh, sorry about that



Nope, at the moment you just change a value in the shader. A lookupmap is a good idea though, as it's way more flexible. I'll change the shader accordingly.



It's vs/ps 2.0 at the moment. I think this can be changed to vs 1.0 and ps 1.4 as the shader isn't very complex. I just start all my shader in vs/ps 2.0 as they are more convenient to write this way.



Depends on the model/scenecomplexity. It's definately not a frameratekiller



Yes, this can be easily changed in the shader.

Just thought i would post my to-do list for the next release:

- ocean shader (refraction+reflection depending on view angle and water depth, vertex noise waves, foam depending on water depth and waves, sun reflection, real time water depth calculation) - 90% (i might post a demo in a few days, it's really nice to look at )

- create ps 1.4 and ps 3.0 versions of the watershader - 0%

- dynamic cloud shader (clouds generated by perlin noise, normalmapping for depth and additional detail) - 25%

- various toon shaders (add lookup map, port to ps 1.4 if possible) - 75%

- volumetric particles - 85%

- fix diffuse lighting error on carshader - 0%

- optimize framework - 60%

- adjust some values of/rewrite the bloom shader - 0%

- adjust some values of/rewrite the depth of field shader - 0%

- add support for multiple dynamic lights to all object shaders - 75%


I think that's about everything there's left to do for the next release.

Please note that the next version of shade-c might not be compatible with former versions. While rewriting the code some parts have changed. I'll try my best to make it compatible with the old version so you don't have to rewrite your scripts, but i can't guarantee it. I'm really sorry about that, but some things just had to be changed as they were unefficient or just plain stupid

sounds great, especially looking forward to seeing your new water shader

Cool, it would be more flexible.



You say it supports dynamic lights as well? If so then 2.0 is just fine.



That's always nice to hear



I figured as much, it wouldn't be a good toon shader without that ability

I just have three last questions:

What is it that causes the black areas on the model? Not the outline, the black shading.

Is this because of the shading?

If so would it be easily modified through a toon map?

BoH, you've done a great job and it's nice to hear what's going on with shade-c. Looking forward to your object shaders

edit: Would you mind if I added shade-c to our For Developers section on itbgames.com?

I don't know exactly what you mean but i guess you are talking about the self shadowing/diffuse ligthing? If so, then this can be changed through the lookupmap. Maybe post a screenshot and mark the part your are talking about?



Hell no! That would be very nice of you actually

Here's what I mean:




k, I'll add it soon

Thanks for the picture. I'll see if i can fix this problem

"Small" update: I got dyamic exposure control working! Now if the user looks at bright areas, the overall brightness will decrease. If the user looks at dark areas, the overall brightness will increase. I still have to tweak some values, but all in all it's working ... and it's fun to play around with

if i add (f.e.) the cartoon shader to my hero model, he is only shown black...
Same with hdrV_Blur, metal, skin, ..etc...

Any idea whats wrong?