Indeed. The rediculous claim Spiderweb sells 'millions of copies' is laughable. I don't know of but one independant title in gaming history that comes even close to a million except for 3d Wolfenstein and the Commander Keen shareware releases that led to the forming of Id software. Otherwise expect sales in the 10k to 15k range if it's a good game with a successful release. That may not sound like a lot but look at Spiderweb- direct downloads. That means at $29.95 that translates to $300,000. Not bad for a couple years work even if he spent a third of it on costs.

I don't know what the difinition of "pro" is? Sales? Spiderweb is home based. About the only 'pro' aspect of it is online commerse and a legal corp filing. I have both. Costs a couple hundred dollars. Does that make me a pro? He's been at it for a while so that makes him successful and experienced but other than that not much seperates him from you or me.

Agreed 100%. I was bored with Oblivion a long time ago. They spent so much time on the eye candy and neglected good game play. Not enough factions to join for one thing.

Unfortunately I have tried to talk friends into playing certain good older games and they will not play them because they think the graphics are crappy. They are missing out on great game play!

You can create immersivity with any graphics provided you maintain consistency.

And that's the audience we need to target. Most console gamers couldn't even 'learn' the complex system of Arena or Daggerfall.

They love Oblivion, which is little more that a 3d shooter using swords. Have you seen the new Fallout III demo vid? http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/26926/E3_08_FallOut_3_Gameplay_Demo.html

I dare quote as my stomach churned when I heard the lines: it'll be "Even deeper than Call of Duty!".

Never said " milions of copies"



No problem , I know it
A pro is someone who makes a (good) living on game programming

ummm....: Quote from your post:

Spiderweb is a small but professional software house, they are around since a long time
Their turnover is in the range of milions usd
I agree with Blade
Dont set too ambitious targets

You have 3 types of software developers. Independant (that's you and me) Small house (which is still you and me but we are making money)and Big hous funded teams. To me if your not big house funded your not pro. Spiderweb is Not big house funded.

Well, this sounds good way to start the RPG. I think I could have two projects going at the same time (so if I get bored to another i can change...). I have actually tried to make some pieces street and save them as prefabs, but I have serious problems with the textures as they are screwed up when I import the prefab...

There are lots of other problems; example: I have no idea how to even make a char have animations in game or add weapons...

So as I'm almost complete beginner, where should I start the building? (1.character movement 2.weapon system 3.skills 4.enemies 5.accessible houses). <-- I have no idea how to make any of them...

Sorry if I am asking too much and too stupid things...

I just want to know how to do things the best way.

As i suggested, i think you should just start with something small. I would advise for you to get familiar with MED,WED and SED first and learn how to do use these , and then i would start learning some modelling make some models to test your skills, also do some level design, and experiment with textures,lighting and layout. Also try going through the Lite-c workshops, as they are very usefull.

So I think that small could be the robot game thing (or maybe a simple Super Mario styled platform jumping game with very simple models)... Actually (I think) I am quite good with MED already... Also I know all/most of the basics in WED... So I think I'll be making this robot model and a small map where it will be. After that I'm going to check some tutorials for movement making (If I can find any)...

Or are the Lite-C workshops kindof tutorials? And where I can find them

I think this is all for now... Coming back to this later.

Thanks again for helping.

Yer the workshops are tutorials, they teach everything you need for movement and more.

okay I found a C-script workshop at GameStudio Wiki... Gonna have a look at it tomorrow.

For now I must ask what could be wrong with my prefab of a piece of street. The textures aren't even nearly where i put them before saving as prefab (I also texture locked them before save)and I can't even run the level because I get error which says one of the textures is bad sized... (36x256)

I think it would be easier to make levels with working prefabs