That's nonsense. You can connect a million users to the engine, but you can only connect several hundred, at maximum, to a single server.

We have advertised 50 users per server on the FAQ page until last year. We have meanwhile removed this recommendation because with A7 and current server technology you can have a lot more than 50, but certainly not "1000's".

Am I the only one that remembers, quite clearly on the network features page, that it said "connect 1000's of users"? Just want to check before we see who's nonsense is more nonsensical.

Have you? I'm not going to believe that someone has been working hard for 5 years and is just now figuring out that the engine isnt going to work out for him. It would appear to me that his 5 years of labor has not been very focused in that case.

Yes actually I have kept a close eye on Fastlane. He may be quick and whitty to comment about someones project - but he is a very dedicated man in his project. Please go look at a few of even his most recent posts then come back here...I'm not going to spoil Fastlanes attempt to get to Conitec.

@Fastlane
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.3dgamestudio.com

To be clear, 3 years of that was learning about networking. This falls under the "I didn't know better".

The last 2 years where "I know better, but I have too much time and money invested in GS already so I have to try to make it work".

And thus after 3 years of learning and 2 years of doing, here we are!

I readily admit that I stuck with this engine longer than anyone else did and try to make it work. I am after all the original GS Net FanBoy. So the point is not that I'm not focused, but rather that IN SPITE of that focus, my advice as to what is needed has never been heeded.

Trito, we have VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE MULTIPLAYER COMMUNITY saying the same thing. It's not just me. If it took me 5 years to reach this conclusion, then at least Conitec should learn from me instead of dismising what we are ALL saying under the pretense that my project is a failure

Well I saw that he told a lot of people what he thought he was going to accomplish, but without being absolutely sure of his technology. That is not only unwise, but its unscientific. I am sorry for his projects failure, but it is just as much a failure of his own preliminary research.

I think this is where you went wrong, getting upfront money, and then trying to make something work which you were not 100% convinced about.

From 2002:

"In a large scale online game however where the players are mainly walking or chatting, and the game world is split into several zones, much more players - several 1000 - can be handled."

IF GS networking is single server,
AND a single server can only hand 50 people,
AND a single server is a single zone,
THEN how can "serveral 1000" players be handled in a MMOG fashion?

In fact they advertised not 1000 but even unlimited players on the feature page.

But I think you need to apply some common sense, even with only little knowledge of MMOGs it should be clear that you cant literally connect unlimited users to the same PC. For more users you need more servers. I think the FAQ also states this clearly.

Ok, since when did this become about me and my project and not about the engine?

By your words Trito, you too admit that GS Networking is a failure. THAT is what this thread is about.

Don't you and JCL try to make this a personal issue as a way to not address the issue at hand, which is the current state of teh GS network engine as it relates to it's MMOG capabilities.

Exactly. And an unlimited number of servers, each with only 50 players in a separate zone, is NOT MMOG. That's my point. That's a bunch of MP worlds, each with only 50 players, not a single MMP world with hundreds of players.