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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #240609
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I have just explained why a "god" can't be allmighty and perfect at one time. So the god you believe in cannot exist wink

Btw, if you think life needs a creator, who is the creator of the creator then? Or did he just appear by chance?

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Lukas] #240614
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God does exist. God is sovereign. God is perfect. God wants us to pray to Him. smile


Says who? A book? I have thousand books that says the opposite. So what?


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Lukas] #240616
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Hi Lukas! smile

God is Almighty and perfect no matter what you or anyone else says. The God I believe in most certainly does exist. smile God has always existed. He IS the Creator. smile

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #240617
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Ok, you are ignoring my logical disproof of god...

But please answer my other question: Who created god? Did he just appear by chance?

EDIT: And what did god do before he created the world? Did he wait an infinite time? Then he would have to still wait today and nothing would have happened.
And if god is allmighty why did it last 6 days to create the world? Why didn't he just snap his fingers and everything appeared?

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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Lukas] #240619
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I am not ignoring you at all. smile God has always existed. smile

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #240620
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God has always existed.


Says who?


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Tiles] #240621
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I realize that you might have answered before I edited my post. But still you are ignoring my questions...

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Tiles] #240623
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Originally Posted By: Tiles
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God has always existed.


Says who?

smitty said that god said everything. So god said that god exists. Sounds a bit like a fantasy friend of a child, doesn't it? wink

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Indeed, my friend harvey ... laugh


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Lukas] #240625
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Originally Posted By: Lukas
If god created the universe, and everything that will happen is determinated by laws of nature if god DOESN'T influence in the universe, all influence by god would mean that god changed his opinion because he could have made the beginning state and the natural laws just as he want, because he is allmighty, but if god is perfect, he won't change his opinion, because there can only be ONE perfect opinion and one of the two opinions would be wrong. That means 1. God doesn't exist OR 2. God does not influence in the universe OR 3. God is not perfect. Each case would mean that there is no reason to pray to god.



I like the way you think smile

By the way, by Newtonian physics, this statement would be completely valid. People back then believed that if we had an all-powerful computer and could input all data about our world into it, we would be able to predict the future under the last detail. Einstein however has changed this view, and it is now the general belief that God does indeed play dice. If you want to know more about this let me know and I'll get a bit more technical.


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