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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #241185
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It seems more like you are using this to divert from truth. I bring up a fact pointing to something you claimed to be a fact (but is not) and, instead of dealing with the issue, you decide to discredit me. And, as you did before, you will try to turn this thread into an argument about me instead of the subject at hand. Very convenient.


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Dan Silverman] #241186
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Well “Smitty” if you where born in an Islamic country you would believe the Muslim fairy tales, so it is just an accident that you were born in raised with christian believes.

If you would have lived in Norway when the vikings where around you would have believed in there gods. When do you start to realize that there is no evidence for the religious claims other than the book of fairy tales. And why should an atheist or non-believer go to the christian hell, it is just stupid superstition mixed with believe in mumbo-jambo.

The burden of proof lies on the back of the one who is making the claim.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Dan Silverman] #241187
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suffering is a result of sin. There was no suffering until Adam disobeyed God and sin entered the world. Why does God allow it? My guess is to bring us to Him. I know that Mr. Silverman has lied about things.


Have you never "lied about things"?


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Dan Silverman] #241189
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could you show me an example of a REAL bible inconsistence?


There are a variety of Bible inconsistencies. Some deal with things like conflicting accounts (numbers that do not match and the like) and some are more important. One that bothers me is the prophecy of Isaiah 7:14. Christians claim this is a prophecy about Jesus and the Gospel according to Matthew states that Isaiah 7:14 is about Jesus. However, a clear reading of the passage (Isaiah 7:14) makes it very clear that Isaiah never had the birth of Jesus in mind. Here is a link dealing with the passage:

http://scrutinizingscripture.blogspot.com/2008/12/for-christian-bible-is-book-that-tells.html

And, yes, I wrote that (before Smitty tries to say I was hiding that fact).


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: sebcrea] #241191
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actually I was not raised born or raised in a Christian family. I did not become a Christian until Later in life when I was an adult and started wondering if there really was a God and if Jesus Christ was the only way. Yes I had heard that but did not believe it. I started reading the bible for myself. I could not understand it and it did not have any meaning for me except words and stories. I started asking God to show me if it was true. I then started to understand the bible and could see that it was true and that Jesus was indeed who He claimed to be.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Dan Silverman] #241192
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yes, Mr, Silverman I have lied about things and I have confessed my sins before the Lord. I was never arrested for something, confessed and then tried to lie to get out of it by blaming other people, have you?

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #241194
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yes, Mr, Silverman I have lied about things and I have confessed my sins before the Lord. I was never arrested for something, confessed and then tried to lie to get out of it by blaming other people, have you?


Nope. I was arrested for an accusation and confessed under duress because I was led to believe that this would restore me to my family. You don't believe me and that is fine. However, the topic at hand is not me, my accusation or whether I lied or not. It is interesting that, instead of dealing with what I have to say, you subvert it via trying to attack me. Grow up. Even Jesus didn't act this way (from what we see in the New Testament) and you claim to be his disciple.


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Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: Dan Silverman] #241196
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We will see when the evidence is presented.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: sebcrea] #241197
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sebcrea, I cannot prove God/Christ or the bible. Only God and His word can prove it to you.

Re: Q: Should creationism be taught in shools? -- A: YES! [Re: smitty] #241198
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smitty, god allows suffering to bring us to him? Doesn't make sense to me.

"We will see when the evidence is presented."
Evidence is presented for evolution.

"I don't have much money, and I really do not care. I don't know how much you have, and I really do not care."
Did you really take my joke seriously?

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