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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Machinery_Frank] #256843
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To be very honest too, you cannot talk a crappy UI good. No matter how hard you try. It stays crappy. It needs a change in the UI to make it better, not arguments wink


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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Tiles] #256844
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The GUI luminary has spoken. :p If you say itīs crappy it really must be crappy. smile

Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: amy] #256845
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It's bad enough that i have stopped learning Blender, let alone using it.

One's for sure, i don't need a whole book to understand the UI of my favourite softwares, nor do i break my fingers while using them ...

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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Tiles] #256852
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You must have awkward fingers wink

All 3d applications need mouse and fingers at the same time if you want to use them efficiently.
But I still believe your fingers are ok. The problem is just in your mind. If you you stop lerning because of negative energy then it is very sad. It will stop you everywhere. ZBrush is very different too. Bodypaint is different. An electrical screw driver is different too and it also needs both hands to handle it efficiently though you might use the smaller ones with one hand only.


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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Machinery_Frank] #256853
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Pleeeeeaaaaase! laugh Noooooo.........

Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Machinery_Frank] #256868
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Have to answer, sorry wink

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You must have awkward fingers wink


All fine with my fingers, thanks.

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The problem is just in your mind.


The problem is in your mind. You are not willing to accept that somebody has another experiences and opinions. You ignore all arguments, since pages. Means you are not really able to lead a discussion.

Where you definitely have problems to understand is that efficiency is not everything. I'm a hobbyist. I am not under the pressure to work as fast as possible. I can handle my software onehanded when i want to, just with mouse. I can my software also just use with hotkeys when i want to ...

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If you you stop lerning because of negative energy then it is very sad.


And again you ignore all arguments and twist words. I stopped learning because the Blender UI was in the way. It is for me unhandleable. Nothing else.

Negative energy arrives when i tell about my experience then. Like in your answer here. Again i get told that i have problems with my mind, have arkward fingers. Next you will again tell me that i am too dumb for 3d and software in general, that i have no clue in general ...

Nothing else than insults, since pages. And arguments gets again totally ignored. Holy Blender grail is under attack. And you will not rest until you had the last word and the attacker vanishes.

Negative energy, my friend, comes from you. This is classic fanboy behaviour.

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An electrical screw driver is different too and it also needs both hands to handle it efficiently though you might use the smaller ones with one hand only.


Well, when Blender would be a screw driver, then i could follow this weird argument. On the other hand, Blender is for my 3D art pipeline equal useful than a screw driver ...



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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Tiles] #256871
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"To be very honest too, you cannot talk a crappy UI good. No matter how hard you try. It stays crappy. It needs a change in the UI to make it better, not arguments"

"You ignore all arguments, since pages."

You wonīt take any arguments but you claim that other ones
ignore them. Sounds like a contradiction to me.


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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Tiles] #256873
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You compulsively jump at almost every blender thread and leave pejorative remarks about its GUI. I (and maybe also others?) simply think that it would be a pity if someone didnīt give blender a chance because of your remarks. Thatīs why I sometimes canīt resist responding to your posts. smile

Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: fogman] #256874
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Sure i do.


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Re: blender - please, stop the pingpong of arguing! [Re: Tiles] #256875
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Not every Blender thread wink


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