Thanks for the link. It is very nice to see our models in this test scenery.

I saw a very similar scene in Unity3d, directly in a browser window (but I could also switch to full-screen). It displayed an entire village made with our desert models on a terrain, a lake with real-time reflections, real-time shadows and some post-processing.
I walked and jumped very smoothly in this scene, collision detection was perfect, not a single slow-down and the scene has more than 1.000.000 polygons easily.

So yes, it is also possible in Unity.

LostClimate: It is not that easy to use a real-time shadow mapping shader on a large terrain. It works only with a good multi-resolution mechanism and some optimizations. And it should take fog into consideration.

yes it takes 5 minutes to set up a bloom shader, read the contex in your quotes.

"yes it takes 5 minutes to set up a bloom shader"
I sad normal mapping with bloom , with obviously includes dynamic shadowing with per pixel lighting. Yes , a shitty half working unusable version can be set up in 5 minutes , but I meant a solid version you could use in an actual game.

DOES IT MATTER????!!!! i mean, come on guys, nothing we say here will make the engine better, am sure they're aware of our bickering and are working at it, i don't think they'd want to fail either... plus jcl just announced that he's setting up a video showcase, should be great and currently, i'm convinced that GS can handle what torque can if the user can code it... but what are we arguing at?
its ease of use or its functionalities? make up ur minds!

what???? normal mapping and bloom take a couple of minutes to set up, and have absolutely nothing to do with dynamic shadows... no wonder you need torque, it covers the aspects you obviously dont know the difference between.

lmao... ok, lostclimate, have you gotten shadowmapping to work? not starting an arguement, just wanna know if it works... i see a few but theyre rather slow or unreliable...

I havent finished mine with anything more than one directional light, having some issues setting it up, but they are just issues with things i havent fully studied or tested yet. But it is possible and I have come very close. and again take a look at chrisb's work, his runs at a great speed so its obviously not a case of possibility, but a case of skill. If I keep working on my shadowmapping it should be done within the month, but I may not since right now I am experimenting with OGRE and am really liking it, and even if i switch i might continue since a large part of my income is people needing me to code for a7.

well... i know its possible, i tried looking for chrisb's version, couldnt find it..

look under 3rd party tools

It is ChrisD not ChrisB, although ChrisB made a lot of shader programming.