Well i don't like tehir license :
For 250$ , you don't have advanced lightening :
You can't do nothing with shaders and no lightening
It's a useless version i think !

Where did you get this information? Advanced lighting is indeed only in the expensive version but shaders are available in every edition.
They are part of the material system.

@Frank_G :
So what do they mean by advanced lightening so ?
Caus shaders like normal mapping ,specular etc ... need lights to work !

And they have lights, the same lights that exist in TGE and TGEA. They made games with lights in the past as well.

It is called advanced lighting, because it offers new and advanced features to the standard lighting.

I didn't read the complete thread now, but A7 has an major advantage,
A Giant Community, the forum is active independent from Time, and its nice documented. A good coder would do the workshops and thats it, no more need, the rest is documentation. That's my way to develop software, 1st "read the fuckin manual" , 2nd search the forums & use Google, 3rd ask in the forums.
T3D documentation is a little to wired.

my minds ...

greetz

zem

@zemog :
Yeah , 3DGS community is great : INDEED

With some people we discuss here lot more about workflow than code.
And A7 workflow is for now far behind Unity or Torque 3D !
Just the object properties in Unity have all about an object : shader,code,textures,physics and each sub panel can be dropped , added !

Are you making a game actually or just coding ?
When you'll go to make a serious game, an go fast (not spending time trying to code to implement X or Y feature) :
Than we'll talk again

Workflow is important but Zemog is also right in terms of documentation. The docs of Unity are much better than the Torque docs.

I spent the last 3 years with Ruby Programming, workflow isnt so much important for myself,.
I need a stable engine with a straight forward documentation and learning curve. Unity looks nice, but it is .net based and I prefer to avoid the usage of .net
But I will take a deeper look on it
Torque is not enough documented, and I cannot go on with this lack of documentation.

A tool has to fit to the entire team, not only to the programmer. If a programmer is comfortable with Ogre3d then it might be that the level designers and artists cannot work at all without additional tools (Ogre has no editors).

It is only a tool. Professional artists are able to switch between modeling tools. Professional coders know a couple of languages and can get into a new one in a few days.

Unity does not offer C# as the only option. You can also program in Boo and JavaScript. Though C# is a very good and powerful language. Several XNA-engines or the Neoaxis-Engine also support C# programming. This is way easier than C++ coding, more safe and creates no memory leaks.

And I agree, a good documentation is a very important fact to take into consideration.

Right , I have alwayes been on 3dgs side, in the past
Whenever a new engine came up, I wrote something like " Pay attention my friends, dont stick to a bloody graphic effect, stability, documentation, comunity these are the key features "
However nowadays I must admit that there are better engines around