Quoting jcl.

- By evidence, finding a body?
When we find a stinking, rotting husk of what was, maybe we can finally put certain irrelevant paths to rest, and dutifully pay homage to the true deities by honoring the microorganisms which supersede and feed on the inert "creator's" shell.

No, I'm not talking about absolute disproof at all, but rather relative disproof, which to me is solid enough to consider God non-existing.

You must not confuse a proof in mathematics, and a proof in natural science. Only in mathematics you can really prove something. In natural science you can only assign more or less likeliness to a theory, based on certain criteria. One of them is experience, i.e. observation.

All pigs we've seen so far walk on the ground and don't have wings, thus we assume that pigs don't fly. Theoretically it's possible that there is a flying pig with wings that we just haven't seen yet, or have forgotten for some reason. In that sense, there is no mathematical proof that pigs don't fly. We just consider it extremely unlikely, based on our experience. It's the same with the existence of the Christian God.

he did? when? where?
gods non existance can easily be proven. because he would be a paradox. he cannot be almighty, simple as that. and usually all gods seem to be allmighty. end of story...

Hi,
Yes, the bible affirms your statement as true.
The bible says that there are many gods and many lords.

1 Corinthians 8:5
For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords,

So, yes, there are many gods and lords that have power down here.



Yes, but you discount the influence of the other gods? Why is that?
What if the other gods affected nature? What if they affected history?
What if some of the other gods were evil? and if they affected nature itself?


Yes, in the garden of eden we were his image, but lost that with the fall.
The other gods are causing havoc.
Yes, i believe in hindu, buddhist, and all of that, but do not follow them.

Summary:
To summarize, you cannot judge Nitro 777's actions based upon RanMan's actions.

Also, you cannot judge Marco Grubert's actions against Doug Poston's actions either.

And, you cannot judge the Almighty's existence, based upon the lesser gods causing havoc down here right now.
btw, the lesser gods are only demonic angels, whose fall is described in the bible.

bye.

A lot of those 'other' Gods are actually contradicting your God's existence though in how in for example Hindu religion the followers believe there is no Christian or Islamic or Jewish God. They might be open-minded enough to compare those more Western Gods with specific Hindu Gods, but they do not believe thóse Gods co-exist. Which is perhaps surprising even for a polytheistic religion... but really, it sort of doesn't work the way you seem to think. I'm not saying you can't believe in what you believe though, I'm merely questioning how much sense it actually makes.

I think JCL's flying pigs example and similar ideas like the Flying Spaghetti Monster God really explain how little sense the existence of a God would make even if only as a theoretical possibility.



This sort of sounds to me like saying that even if we would discover a direct divine influence, it still doesn't mean it's the Christian God to 'blame' nor proof for it's particular existence.

I very much agree. And in my mind this also makes it even more unlikely that Gods could even exist. It's pretty easy to see that they've got a severely limited theoretical and very imaginative space in which they could exist.

For example, if even the Messiah with his magical tricks a few thousand years had trouble convincing people of his divine nature, how could a God even if it would appear in person ?? How could be determined which God it actually is? There are many many problems when it comes to proof even in the most direct sense of the word.

I always hated != proofs - tends to result in some confusion.

I don't believe you can prove non-existence.



This presupposes several things that aren't necessarily true. First, that our science, historians and archeologists have discovered enough key truths in their fields; that these discovered facts are germane to our ability to determine the existence of God and that they have actually been applied to the process in any substantive way. Personally I think you could plug 'hairdressers, policeman and chefs' into your contention and it wouldn't increase - or decrease- the possibility of your statement being true. I'm not sure that science has the tools to prove God's existence - and I'm reasonably certain that we don't know enough to disprove it.

if you prove that it does not exist, you proved its non existance.
and allmighty does not exist, simple as that. thats a fact. almighty is impossible.
there, i just proved that an almighty god does not exist.
happy now?