Sorry, I know this is OT, but there's been already much OT.

Maybe, we have the right to hear some clarification:

Dan's attorney said, according to the article:

"We're talking about one touch to the breast that lasted for just a moment..."

Is that the whole content of the accusation?

@ Shultz

omg ! Are you the infamous Sgt. Shultz?
Sargent Shultz Here! :-)

Please hijack anytime.

dan is not a victim.

he fell from faith and confessed to an officer according to that article.
It is no coincidence.

The police generally do not arrest dads, just on a whim, but they have reasons.

Interesting that I had a similiar experience with my neighbor a few years ago.
His daughter would visit my daughters and I worked graveyard shifts and slept in the daytime. Anyways, whenever i was alone in bed on several occasions, his daughter would JUMP into my bed with me and giggle a lot.
I scolded her and got her out of my bed and room asap all the time.

Well, what would prompt this behavior from a little girl, hummm ???

They arrested her dad a few months later and the couple divorced and moved away. i assume he was molesting her and she thought that behavior was appropriate for older men.

Yep, most of the time, they arrest those that need arresting...

"We're talking about one touch to the breast that lasted for just a moment..."


Like I said, walk into a biker bar and touch one of their old ladies on the breast for just a moment and see what happens. We are talking about an innocent 12 year old girl. Who knows if this was the first time Dan did this to a child, but hopefully it will be the last.

Can we stop these talks already that are totaly unrelated to the topic? Make your own blasted thread if you feel the urge to talk about Dan.

Didn't I tell you not to continue this discussion? If you continue, you will get a ban.
Back to topic now. This is my last warning.

I banned rose as we have proof that she was obviously smitty.

@RanMan:

This may be true, but according to Dan, he got set up by his wife, because he lost his faith in "their" religion.

I agree though, there's a good reason to assume, what is said to have happened, has happened. But without Dan being able to defend himself here, regardless of evil doings, it's just silly to even continue going on about this.



Yes. In fact, it's quite peculiar as the girl is said to be his own daughter. If there's no sexual motivation, I don't see why touching someone's breast would be harmful. Obviously, as long as there's no "pattern of abuse", as they say.

For example, I once touched someone's breast to prevent them from walking further and possibly getting under a truck... It wouldn't make sense to sue me for that either, right??

I think we should all agree that we can't possibly know the full background behind all this and should stop arguing.

Hi,

I totally agree. I like the man, his work and his ethics.

In Dan's defense, I can say that all my dealings with him were absolutely great.
I appreciate his work and those hannah and rueben human models creation and texturing worked wonders on youtube too.

Dan's Hannah and Rueben human models are at this link with over 200,000 hits already !

I can say that I found him to be a very genuine and not a "phoney" individual.

As a modeler and level designer, what he says he would do, well he did it!
Dan is not a hypocrite. Dan is the real deal.

Before ever being a hypocrite, Dan would rather just quit the faith altogether.
I can appreciate that.

Anyways, back to topic.
Since the human body is so complicated and much of it, especially in the brain is not even fully understood, then why do those of you who are atheist assume that time itself created it?

Understanding that areas like the brain are already so complicated that we do not know how it really works, but yet this complicated material has no designer? Really though, is this not fascinating?

Because we can see it happen with our own eyes. We dug out bones that look human, yet are different from ours, and actually more closely resemble apes. But this different species is nowhere found on earth anymore. What else could it be that this was how humans looked like thousands of years ago?


Fascinating it is for sure, but if we look to the past, there were many many more things that were not understood, thought to be so complex it's beyond our capability to understand, and thus a designer must've created it.

Remember the Earth was once flat.

But now we know it's not flat, there's no designer behind a flat world. Because there's no such thing as a flat world.

Why can't it be that, once we figure out how the brain works, the brain actually works so much different than we thought, it all makes sense, and is not complex anymore? As this way has proved to be quite common in the past...
If we figure it out, all of a sudden there's no designer anymore, and the designer seem to have "moved" to the more abstract and complex things that have risen by new findings.

God made everything a few thousand years ago!
*scientists prove otherwise*
Oh. well, God made everything a few million years ago!
*scientists prove otherwise*
No, wait, God made everything some billion years ago, and triggered evolution!
*scientists prove otherwise*
God triggered the Big Bang?
*scientists sigh*

This is how it's going for dozens of years. Religions come up with ideas, scientists with theories and proof. Why is it that the ideas are taken more serious than the proof? Why not base the ideas on the proof, and accept that they may change any time? It's fine to believe God is involved somehow, but why are religious people *spare the exceptions* so sure that NOW is the time they really know the answer?