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Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: Tiles] #283323
08/07/09 08:09
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Originally Posted By: Tiles
Hm, just ask yourself why there are no games around made with 3D Rad. With games i don`t mean minilevels to show the power of single objects.


I think you missed the point of a tool like this. It serves the same market like the FPS creator. Did you see any published game made with FPS creator? No. And there probably will not be any in the future.
But there are tons of customers. The makers of FPS creator make some good money. The customers want to have fun, easy access and fast feedback.
3dgs users are something similar. They are here because they get easy access to the scripting (otherwise they would use a real programming language with better debugger and more powerful programming features). But even this takes more time for learning.

The same counts for Poser, DAZ and similar tools. Nobody will make a professional project with these. It is even not allowed in their license. But nevertheless there are tons of customers buying every new art pack, just for fun, for creating some nice scenes and images. It is their hobby.


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Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: Machinery_Frank] #283324
08/07/09 08:19
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here's a nother one what do you think guys?

Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: nuclear_winter] #283343
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Well, i have in fact seen finished projects made with FPS Maker. Not professional of course. And i have seen art made with Poser and DAZ. Also not professional. But i haven`t yet seen a finished project with 3D Rad. Be it professional or not professional. That`s what i wanted to point out. When i grab a game making tool i would expect that i can make games with it wink

But i totally agree with you. It`s the fun that`s in the first place with such a tool smile

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Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: Tiles] #283483
08/07/09 22:51
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back in the day the old 3d rad had a few games made with it.

Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: lostclimate] #283828
08/10/09 10:11
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See Mic's progress, just a couple of days later (and this is spare time project)

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Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: nuclear_winter] #283847
08/10/09 11:59
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@Frank_G :
Yes, i agree totally with what you said.
And lot of people like these friendly 3D engines for fun , but also caus they can express their creative spirit.
The pleasure to learn and enjoy something done and working.


Well for 3D RAD, it lacks lot fo features you can find in more solid engines : Buy A7 or Unity instead !

In the 3D RAD forums , for each new feature request, there is some 600$ to reach in donation before the programmer release it crazy

That's like : ok we gonna make money with the old version of the engine : let's say it's free , and let's ask money for every new feature they ask !
I hate people like that, setaling money from young business unexperienced people frown
He should instead, adopt another way :
For exmplae :a vote for all features needed by people
and a vote for a global donation price !


Well stick away from that Money Angry 3D programmer,
let rest in peace 3D RAD , don't give money for a dead engine, and buy a more solid engine instead !

Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: ratchet] #283851
08/10/09 12:06
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I see you like Frank's old nickname. wink

Re: 3D Rad v6 is now FREEWARE! [Re: Cowabanga] #284080
08/11/09 15:59
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Yea, Frank_G is shorter wink
(I have lot of respect for it's open mind and
very good relative criticism of different people, 3D engines , tools and game making in general in indie game making).

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