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Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: Damocles_] #287295
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they could be so far advanced that they travel differently than we do wink

however, i too say that we will never meet an intelligent alien life form. all intelligent life in the universe will make sure to never meet us. we are barbaric monsters...

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I dont think we are babaric.

The society is just developing
to econimical laws of self interest.
Wich is normal for ANY species on Earth.

Altruism is not a dominant strategy in evolution.

Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: sPlKe] #287307
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Originally Posted By: sPlKe
they could be so far advanced that they travel differently than we do wink


Yes, but they cannot bend physical borders.
If you are on Mars and you send a message then it needs 3 minutes to reach earth. So after 6 minutes you can get a reply. Only emails make sense there. And this is just around the corner (in our own solar system).


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Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: Machinery_Frank] #287309
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Originally Posted By: Machinery_Frank
Yes, but they cannot bend physical borders.
If you are on Mars and you send a message then it needs 3 minutes to reach earth. So after 6 minutes you can get a reply. Only emails make sense there. And this is just around the corner (in our own solar system).

You're just taking into account electromagnetic waves and 3D laws for mass-having particles though. When restricting our entire universe to just those levels you are correct. The multi-dimensionality of our universe allows far more than that though...

While there might be several ways for long distance travel I know of one concept for this that seems to be valuable and even is mentioned within the records of the old cultures although rather rough shaped. I have to say though that I'm too lazy for describing that in detail as in order to have at least a gasp of how things interact with each other it would require some epic textwalls...

So I'll keep it at saying that there are more things than 3D space & time that exist and influence our world's behaviour. I guess you also have heard of some very basic concepts like tachyons (above light-speed particles - currently rather theoretical though) or teleportation of certain particles (I don't know which one but one particle actually was successfully teleportated leading to travelling with more than lightspeed)...

Enjoy your meal
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Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: Toast] #287315
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for example the quantum entaglement... says that to particles that are original from the same particle that created, are connected. And if you separate those 2 particles with the same quantum spin, and make them apart millions light years, and if you make one reverse its spin, the other one will instantaneously change too.. and this flow of information, this transmittion or whatever , must be much more then speed of light.

Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: MMike] #287320
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i must add this.

Alien, are not very well known, is true, and we must think that by math chances, there must be much more then 1 alien species.

-Some of them can be bad, others good.
- They already studied our DNA and much more, that they know we are afraid of them, and they simply dont want to show up yet, they Hide, and they also, probably are invisible when they need. So we dont see it.
Also our bacterial world is different from them, so they cant contact us , wihout infection and possible have no immune system for our world.

Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: MMike] #287326
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Another addition to aliens living "next to us" is that we probably wouldn't recognize some of them as "alien" as they look very much like us. Still afaik next to no one should actually "walk among us"...

Enjoy your meal
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Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: Toast] #287475
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well there is a specie like us, the pleiadians... they are a higher vibrational energy beings. They apear totaly invisible to us. since we are low energy compared.

its like clicking on the remote control and you cant see the infrared, but when you aim at a camera digitaly, it will show. So they also have to lower their energy, to make contact with us.

That energy will anyway show as light, bright entities. So i think there is something here that points perhaps that the ghosts are nothing more then they ( the aliens, vibrating in lower energy so they can ve more visible... same with their flying ships.

Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: MMike] #287481
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Man, perhaps one or two joints less will do the trick. I think every light entity will disapeare then.

Honestly, this is really the biggest nonesense I've ever red here in the forums.

Please show me a picture of such an alien.
And don't come with "but you can't see them, because they vibrating in another sphere" (ohhhm) If nobody can see them, why should I believe they are there. Infrared is proofable. Feelings like love are proofable with modern medicine (biochemical). Lightspectren are all proofable, but I belive you can't even show me a hint that this things exsists.

Naive or totaly brainfucked.
Or this is absolute sarcastic (or even cynical) and I've got this post wrong than I have to applaud to your post.

Re: "Alien" caught in trap - now examined [Re: TheThinker] #287484
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Aaand, it is nonesense that we could be afraid. If something like an alienvisitor would apeare in the german news, the people would be excited for one or two days, than they would say: "Hey I have to do my work, shit on the alien, I need the money." Or "I need the new PS4 and the new game. I wish I had not spend all my Hartz 4 this month. Oh Perhaps I can ask the aliens for money."

Zoom, oh a light entity apeared and said: "You are realy mean. you should calm down and let the people blieve what they want." <plop> <puff> I shot it with my desintegrator lying here around.

I realy hope your post are not serious.

Perhaps I should let belive you what you want, but telling such things like facts which "must be right" can't be tolerated (by me).

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