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1st or 3rd Person? #287555
09/01/09 11:48
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I´m still programming on my Shooter with the Name "White Storm". But i stuck in a gameplay problem..

What is better? 1st Person or 3rd Person?
The Game itself is not a Horrorgame. It´s based on Sci-Fi Action in WW2.


I really need your opinions here, to start coding the player controls.


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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Espér] #287573
09/01/09 12:55
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Ich denke 1st Person sind eher für Rasante Shooter am besten geeignet, wo nicht viel mit der Umgebung interagiert werden muss (wie beispielsweise Hinter kisten umher schleichen oder was auch immer).
3rd Person sehe ich da schon eher mit dem Taktischen Aspekt.
Hier kannst du dem Spieler verschiedene möglichkeiten geben, mit der Spielewelt zu interagieren.
Das geht natürlich auch in einem 1st Person Shooter, aber den besten überblick hat man halt mit der 3rd Person.

Nehmen wir einfach mal Splinter Cell / Metal Gear Solid und Kumpanen als beispiel.
Alle Spiele sind auf die 3rd Person ausgelegt, weil der Spieler nicht einfach rum laufen und wild um sich schiessen , sondern eher Taktisch klug vor gehen muss, um Gegner XYZ auszuschalten.

Nun mache ich einfach mal die gegenprobe... Kannst du dir ein UT2009 / Counter-Strike / Halo usw als 3rd Person vorstellen?
Also ich nicht. Bei den SPielen will ich einfach nur Ballern und nicht irgendwie 3000 Stunden irgend ne Taktik überlegen.

Also es kommt ganz darauf an was du wie in deinem Spiel umsetzen willst.
Ich würde an deiner stelle einfach mal 2 einfache Kameras Programmieren und dann siehst du später welche einfach besser passt.

Vielleicht sind die Beispiele nicht die besten, aber ich hoffe dir klar gemacht zu haben wie ich beispielsweise die beiden Perspektiven einsetzen würde.


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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: rvL_eXile] #287578
09/01/09 13:20
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take a look at this thread that i started: http://www.opserver.de/ubb7/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=266106&page=all you'll see that it isnt about which is better, its about what fits your game and the experience you are aiming for

Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: darkinferno] #287586
09/01/09 14:11
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my game is a game about time traveling, dimension-paradoxes and time-paradoxes. Nazi-Zombies, Russian mutants, Maschine-Enemies and futuristic weapons. All in the time from 1944-1945.

I think i´ll do ego-gameplay and some 3rd person things... just need some advices on how to do it.. XD


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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Espér] #287603
09/01/09 15:10
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Sounds like Wolfenstein with any Sci-Fi game(dead space as an example) grin

Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #287614
09/01/09 16:36
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i do´n´t think that a character in wolfenstein wears a nanotec suite ^^

http://daten.rmxpworld.de/White%20Storm/Grafiken/ADAM_Links.bmphttp://daten.rmxpworld.de/White%20Storm/Grafiken/ADAM_Front.bmp


Hmm. ok.. a advise arrived via PM... Hiding behind Walls = Zoomout to 3rd person..

any other?

Last edited by Espér; 09/01/09 16:36.

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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Espér] #287616
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Zooming out can beak the mood...
I really would keep it one view.
But if you really want to switch, well then:
Cover system, like in Vegas2, or melee kills, all in third person, and regular shooting in first person.

Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Espér] #287624
09/01/09 18:02
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The setting reminds me on Timeshift.
The Main Character also wears a Nanosuit.
Timeshift was 1st Person and it fits good for the setting, so if your game is similar to Timeshift i would prefer 1st Person.


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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: MoRRoW] #287629
09/01/09 18:21
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i never played timeshift.. but heard much about it.. seems like i need to buy it sometimes ^^

ok.. i will start with a first person movement.. then i look if 3rd person fits in different parts..


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Re: 1st or 3rd Person? [Re: Espér] #287785
09/02/09 14:31
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Maybe some levels should be 1st person and the others should be 3rd person. That would be interesting, or maybe you should let the player choose.

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