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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: PHeMoX] #291311
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Check this video :-

http://www.kranti.org/damage/environment.html

Al Gore is a hypocrite. Not even once did he mention in his documentary 'Inconvenient Truth' about the leading cause of global warming - the meat industry.


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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: zazang] #291317
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This video is a weired mix-up of different problems,

First it states, its about climate change (showing
the Tsunami in the Indian Ocean, how stupid is that?)

Then it lamentates about drinking water shortage.
(where drinking water is not something that can be exported
around the world, its a local commodity, and some regions
simply have more than others)

Also: hunger is a typical problem in countries with overpopulation,
obesity is a problem in countries with low population growth.
Figure out what the actual reasons for hunger are..

Rice fields are also a huge contributor to methane production,
this fact is not stated.
So there is no simple "You should eat this" as valid argument.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Damocles_] #291340
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Originally Posted By: Damocles_
This video is a weired mix-up of different problems,

First it states, its about climate change (showing
the Tsunami in the Indian Ocean, how stupid is that?)

Then it lamentates about drinking water shortage.
(where drinking water is not something that can be exported
around the world, its a local commodity, and some regions
simply have more than others)

Also: hunger is a typical problem in countries with overpopulation,
obesity is a problem in countries with low population growth.
Figure out what the actual reasons for hunger are..

Rice fields are also a huge contributor to methane production,
this fact is not stated.
So there is no simple "You should eat this" as valid argument.


Nature works in mysterious ways but one thing is sure - you cannot go against it . There is no court where you can hold a trial against nature.
The whole idea of the documentary is to show that if we continue to misuse nature for long , then there shall be dire consequences. Thats why the video is titled Planetary Emergency.




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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: zazang] #291353
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The video is about promoting vegetarian diet.
And that with fuzzy line of arguments.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Damocles_] #291360
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Look i havent read the whole post, and sometimes i come here to forum, and see this topic on the spotlight, and i never say something but now i wil..
all i have to tell is From what i know, global warming, is not caused by Co2 in the manner of pollution etc.

Global warming would happen even without humans here, its something natural, cyclical, etc, thats what warm us, our planet, to life be possible, on the beginning. and it also is happening with other planets. Its something Global.
The impact human has, is not that big deal, thats sort of a conspiracy.

but we cant start thinking everything is conspiracy, otherwise i would did suicide, let pretend things u see and hear, from tv, news, gov.. are the real scenario.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: EvilSOB] #291362
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Originally Posted By: EvilSOB
[quote]After all who is to say the whole climate-change issue isnt the same as ONE article I saw over 10 yars ago.
A well-documented, researched and endorsed study by a well-respected (by scientists) article that showed
conclusivly that WATER CAUSES CANCER !!!! Since when he has never been heard of again.
Now either scientists are human and can make mistakes, or there is a conspiricy to hide
the dangers of water. Make up your own mind.




Well water causes alot of things. This is the major things you dont know (i guess):
- All water you consume is on fruits, or even your food, dont need to take more!

- First came the Clorine (Cl) which kills bacteria etc, but its bad to body..
the it isn't enough so added fluor:

-Fluor (F) causes damage to body organs, and many neural functioning. Though they know, they want to control you, so you be in this state of low "consciousness" low brain thinking... not too smart not to dull, and they say, well its good for your teeth, do you think its just that?

People who drink alot of water, will suffer in some way or another. I personally dont drink water, at all, only some juice from supermarkets, where i control the Cl ions, and NO Fluor for me. Fluor will cause flurosis...

They give you slowly a poison to you, and you will eventually die.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: adoado] #291364
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Quote:
Global warming: Why are we so slow to act?


My answer in all short: Because we tend to choose the way that's more comfortable for us.We don't want think "what if it's true, then what?" situations, but instead we go along with: "you don't have any proof."

People shouldn't really ask why we are so slow, but what I can do to make the world a better place.. we're not here alone after all

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Walori] #291404
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The logic:
"Global warming is there, so it must be man made,
lets bee all better."
is not that convincing.

Though global warming is shown to happen,
it still needs to be researched, if and how much man made technology contributes to it.

Climate cycles happen all the time.
In fact, right now we are in a colder period of Earth climate history. The mean-temperatures change naturally.

Possible appropriate actions to reduce this current increase
must also be prooven.

For example:
lets say we find out that Carbon dioxide emmisions have only
a 5% impact on the warming.
But current agriculture has a 15% impact. (methane)
Then the focus must lie on changing agriculture technology and not
transportation technologies.

If the reasons are not understood, then
the (limited) economical options to change human technology application
cant be applied effectively.

Quote:
Because we tend to choose the way that's more comfortable for us


This is a simplistic view.
People have to act economically, increasing our utility (well beeing). Not because they are bad or so,
but because if they would not, we would have never evolved
such strong civilizations. (we would not have evolved at all)

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Another point:

there where stronger temperature changes than now over the last
5 thousand years of recorded history.
But only now (since 150 year) people do scientific observations
and reasonings about these changes.
So the current climate change is also mangified in perception,
simply beacuse we do actually think and prognose about this
issue now.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Damocles_] #291410
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Originally Posted By: Damocles_
The video is about promoting vegetarian diet.
And that with fuzzy line of arguments.


A vegetarian diet for what ? To save us from the fury of mother nature.
You may have facts that tell you that global warming is all a farce and I have facts that it is not a farce. So I wont comment any further on this as we will
never reach a conclusion.


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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: zazang] #291432
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look at the last slide of the video. It says "eat vegetarian"

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