Interesting. I heard that since Bootcamp is around there's sort of a Mac=Windows mentality - especially as most Indie games aren't performance demanding monsters so they'll run fine in Bootcamp...

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how bout asking a few of the millions of talented coders that do those things for free if they would do it? give them some money and they gladly do it.
ive seen things like quke run on wii. ive seen things like N64 games run on MAC. ive even seen sega saturn games run on linux. and those programs are free. coded by maybe two or three people over the course of a year or two with permanent updates to the core.
those people do that in their free time, you cant just tell me that it would be impossible for a group of say, ten coders that work only on opeGL support.
as said, forget the console gaming thing. you just cant afford it. sure, you can develop for XBLA for free, but then you may not sell the game. way to go. if you want to sell it, shell out 30k in cash first.
and if you dont have your own office not located at home, you arent even going to develop for anything else, because thats one of the main things for consle develoment.
and as ive said, as long as you cant even efford nice models...

Now that OGRE switches to the MIT license they simply could use OGRE for A8 and build a state of the art editor around it. It would save them a lot of work.

lite-C + OGRE + Bullet would be quite an awesome combination.

Since you mentioned Ogre: Did you see a new game called Torchlight, made with Ogre?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/41500/

Did you see the Torchlight thread?

To be honest: No I missed it.

Wow, this is quite awesome.
I love unity (I used it for a school project, was quite fun to work with).. I just never had to urge to buy it as when I bought A5, then 6 back int he day I felt like I wasted my money... Not because the engine/tools were bad, but because I didnt have time to use them.

But now that Unity AND 3dgs are free, this is great! Especially for students and schools! Yeah there is a competition between 3DGS and Unity, but they both have their advantages and disadvantages so I can see indie developers and students choose each tool based on their needs with out having to feel the pain in their wallets.

It really opens the doors for more people!

They're not free, Unity Indie and A7 Extra is free only.

Well what used to cost money is now free

Saving me over 300 dollars is quite nice (adding both engines together)

A7 Extra will not be free they said that lite-c gets basically the features of 3dgs extra (and not all) lite-c and 3dgs are different products, hope that they not only add features but also the wed maybe not in full functional state, but its better for the beginners for asigning behaviour etc. right now only info is no shader and basically lite-c becomes 3dgs extra features. and 3dgs extra will be discontinued but it takes time, so wait and enjoy when it comes lol