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Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? #299165
11/21/09 22:49
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If true it probably deserves the name "Climategate". It's about the view of a manmade climatic changes lots of scientists don't agree with. After the following report a hacker gained access to a university's climate research unit and copied e.g. correspondence showing manipulation of data in order to support the "Anthropogenic Global Warming myth"...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesd...global-warming/

Let's see what this turns out as...

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Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Toast] #299166
11/21/09 22:59
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HAH! i knew that it was a lie.


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Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Quad] #299177
11/22/09 01:03
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I didn't believe in manmade global warming but I like the way we start to care about our environment. Next is to start caring about our economy. Follow the money, if it ends all in one pocket, it's time to take action.


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Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Joozey] #299183
11/22/09 02:57
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im preaching this for years, but nobody listens. and they will continue to not listen...

and people ask me why i lost hope in mankind-.-

Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: sPlKe] #299189
11/22/09 05:35
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Doesnt that mean that climate change IS man-made?

I mean that regardless if the planet is getting hotter or not (I think not),
the evidence that supports "climate change is man made", has been made by man changing the data.

So the PROOF that climate "change is man-made" has been man-made, so climate change IS man-made.
Despite the fact the climate change stopped 10-15 years ago and stable-ised. (how do you spell that?)

Have I made myself clear? I dont quite know how to phrase what I mean.

If the evidence is man-made, therefore the (fictional) theory the evidence supports is also man-made.

That last one sounds better...


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Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: EvilSOB] #299202
11/22/09 10:31
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Wait, all you guys don't (or didn't) believe in (manmade) global warming?


The article you linked to didn't seem to come from a very objective source, to be honest, so I don't really want to comment on this right now, not until I've read the replies from the scientists these emails supposedly come from. Also, please keep in mind that even if true (which at this point I still kind of doubt, and even if this is true, those emailbits might just be quoted out of context in a very crass way - obviously those hackers have a certain goal in mind as well wink - this would only prove what few scientists have done - those are not all scientists in the world.

Also, I shouldn't post this since I won't have time to reply back smirk



Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.

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Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Error014] #299220
11/22/09 12:34
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Its some emails from some (british?) University.
Does not proove anything more than the life of
scientites in a cut throat fund-searching science community.

A few scientists cant alter all worldwide data and reasearch,
so these little "insides" are irrelevant to the overall
climate discussion.

Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Damocles_] #299233
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Okay, I am too lazy to read this long ENGLISH(!) text - does this mean the global warming is man-made or not?

Is the global warming higher than elsewhen?

Will we all day soon?

I am so confused...

Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #299234
11/22/09 14:03
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Global warming nowadays is man-made, that's a fact just as fossil fuels run dry. Everyone denying that has no clue about the matter. I don't say that everything scientists say is true, but come on. Such a massive masquerade is not at all believable and there are so many simple evidences that there is a correlation between climate change and CO2 concentration in athmosphere that I don't really get why people keep arguing about this fact.

Re: Climategate - Evidence for false view of manmade climate change? [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #299235
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