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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: ventilator] #304458
01/08/10 04:27
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Wow, what a great read! Thanks for that, jcl and co. Shame it appears to be over.

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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: JibbSmart] #304459
01/08/10 04:30
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that is bizarre. the sex game stuff isnt that wierd for me, i contemplated making one for a while and i remember a topic where others were contemplating it as well because lets face it... sex sells, but all that business stuff is just.... wierd.

Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: Joozey] #304463
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Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you; the snippets the public here did see/hear always sounded optimistic...

That has to be one of the weirdest stories I've heard.


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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: adoado] #304465
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Wow, JCL, you are really a talented writer. Very good to read and your sense for humor is great!

But one questions, was the forum down yesterday because of a DDos attack of pissed 'Embassy Flight and Ground Service' employees?


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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: Joozey] #304466
01/08/10 06:27
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This venture was truly a shame, but it sounds as though you handled it well.

I would just like to thank you JCL for being forthright and honest. I will be upgrading upon the next release, both due to speedy development with your products and your strong character.


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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: Nowherebrain] #304469
01/08/10 07:09
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That's a funny name! laugh
Good luck with your project (I vote for thin models with small boops - if you have influence over laugh )

Years ago I also had a job on a swiss project named "Utopia" (a software for stockkeeping and cash register).
Unfortunately it was never finished by bankruptcy of the company frown


Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: ] #304472
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Umm, incredible
son of .... man

Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: Felixsg] #304478
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Would have been suspicious to me from the beginning:

-a guy coming from an unknown company, with millons of
claimed assets but not public appearence (is there further information
available in the Swiss trade register?)

-wanting to contract build a full MMO without any previous
experience in the gaming industry. And also approaching/quickly contracting a
company that never had developed a full MMO in that scale.

-paying in cash (now this is about as unprofessional as
it can get. Only drug dealers and backalley second hand car dealers pay cash in these amounts.
Whoever pais cash wants to hide something, or tries to impress the other with a simple psycological trick)

-doing "important sounding" phonecalls with "prices and trade ministers". Thats a cheap phsycological trick too.

-having no other contact persons involved in the project.
Normally the "boss" would assign one of his young employees
as contact person, who is a constant contact-partner for
the gamedesign details.
Sending detail-design document discussions back and forth.
Whoever has to manage a million dollar company is
not doing detail stuff himself.


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Anyhow, its good that you stopped the development soon enough.
I suppose that other companies would have continued working
even with delayed payments, just in the hope that it works.

Did he ask for assets/sourcecode? Else I really wonder
what his intentions where for that whole projects.

Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: Damocles_] #304480
01/08/10 10:52
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maybe a new kind of pyramid-swindle...?

maybe he has own clients, and the clients make invests for "something".
With this money he try to make more money. And maybe he has not enough paying clients to pay utopia....

and his clients are "mafioso" and want to see results....
and now his gprs data says, his position is in the atlantic sea, 2000m under water.....

this is a realy crazy story..... i like hes high-tech-home laugh

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Re: MMOG "Utopia" - the true story [Re: maslone1] #304483
01/08/10 11:09
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Looks like a good story line for an action/suspence movie.


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