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Recommended WAMP package #311003
02/18/10 06:07
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G'day!

Mum got a Mac and let me have her old PC, so I'm keen to set up a server. I'm leaning towards a WAMP package since it's already got a legit Windows version on it and this means I can make game servers to interact with it on the same computer using A7 when I experiment with multiplayer and POWs (Persistent Online Worlds -- much less vague than the MMO prefix that has come to mean any multiplayer game that remembers anything about the player, no matter how little -- but I digress).

What do people recommend? XAMPP looks really good, but apparently is has security issues. If I'm just using Apache, PHP and MySQL can it be set up to be as secure as any other similar package? Does anyone prefer anything else?

Also LAMPstack from bitnami looks really good, but I don't want to go into Linux because I won't be able to have A7 servers on the same machine.

Thanks,

Jibb

PS: I almost put this in "Tools", but it isn't really game-dev specific, so this seems to be the best place.


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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: JibbSmart] #311492
02/20/10 01:42
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if i understand it right wamp (or similar software) is just a server/database system right? to be honest I am just going what i consider being a much simpler route and using SQLite. personally I just find it very portable and easy to use.

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Thanks for the response laugh

So SQLite includes a server? I looked it up on Wikipedia but it doesn't seem clear on that (although I was just glancing through).

What I like about XAMPP (which I've been using the past couple of days, since I haven't really received any other suggestions since I posted) is how it all fits together so well from the install. I quite frankly have no idea how much effort it is to get a server interacting with a database -- it's probably very simple -- but I don't need to know if I use something like XAMPP (more specifically, XAMPP Lite), which has the server and the database working together from the get go.

So yeah, is SQLite more than just a database management system?

Cheers,

Jibb


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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: JibbSmart] #311509
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WAMP basically stands for Windows Apache MySql Php

just as xampp it is a preconfigured web server package with some management tools, apache,mysql and phpmyadmin. You create your php script, drop in to the www directory and it works right away, no need to go through frustrating apache,mysql and php installation & setup.


Sqlite does not require a server but last time i checked, you were not able to use accounts and/or passwords on the database. It's just a file, you open and run queries on it from the a7 server that's all, no need for database server. For a POW it should be sufficent.


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I'm quite keen to take advantage of A7's new http functions (when we get the next public beta), among other things unrelated to A7 usage, so I'm inclined towards some sort of *AMP package. By sticking with Windows I can run persistent A7 stuff on it as well (later on) without occupying resources on my main computer.

So thanks, but I guess SQLite doesn't fit all my purposes.

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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: JibbSmart] #311521
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yeah, instead of such purposes, sqlite is more useful for like, keeping quest explaniations/details, items, dialogues for rpg-like games.


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Alright. Thanks anyway laugh

Btw, I don't know how it happened, but both your avatars in this thread are different for me right now (I know it changes every time I refresh, but I thought they were both meant to be the same?).

The top one is blonde, and the bottom one has blue hair!

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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: JibbSmart] #312033
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yeah sqlite is just a database, i use a7 as the server itself, and i store persistent information (usernames, passwords, positions, etc) in the database, and just have a small library mixed with GSTsqlite that allows me to do all of the server stuff right in a7

But yeah, if your looking for an all around 3rd party server solution, thats probably not the way to go.

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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: lostclimate] #312058
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Fair enough. How's your MM project going, btw?

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Re: Recommended WAMP package [Re: JibbSmart] #312106
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getting back to topic:

I'm using XAMPP Lite for local testing, I need phpmyadmin for administrating the database, its the best tool IMHO. As Quadraxas said, WAMP packages are really comfortable.

However, I wouldn't use any WAMP package for the server of a release version, I'd rather install a secure MySql server and keep apache/php away from that server (if possible from the games concept).

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