I think you are talking about A10.

Or about a 200000 Dollar engine.

A7 is very great. A lot of things are possible.

Okay, you are right. The editors could be much better.

But there is no engine out there, where you can press Enter and everything is finished. And it seems that everyone is thinking that you must only have the right editors and your game looks like gta4, farcry or risen.

Every game is hard work. It depends not only on the editors.

Time to order A7

I am liking the list of improvements offered in A8 and will be purchasing an upgrade for my commercial license as soon as the prepurchase option is available.

I agree with Dark_samurai though, I would very much like to see improvements in GED. It needs a good particle editor and to allow for live previews of scenes

Looks to me that LED should/will/has to become the Editor for A8?

I guess so more-easily pluginable GED and new code editor is a must for A8.

What is bad about SED / what is missing?

@Quadraxas: "More customisable run/debug options."/ Image: Yes, that would be nice and very useful!

autocomplete/intellisense, other stuff that helps coding faster. More customisable run/debug options. A better project manager.

The first thing I always turn of is intellisense and auto completion, because it really really bugs me. It interrupts whenever I try to type my code.... ROAAAHH.

OK ... I'm trying to see enough added value in A8 to justify the upgrade cost (and going from A7 PRO to A8 PRO won't be all that cheap, I'm sure).

Some others have already mentioned their disappointment with respect to the list of enhancements / improvements, and while I can appreciate a new core for multiplayer support, shadows and some other improvements, I can't say that it makes me yell "WOW".

Every engine has its strong and weak points and A5/A6/A7 have helped me understand more about 3D-engines then any of the other engines I've used/owned (Torque3D / Lawmaker / BeyondVirtual). But since this is still just a hobby, the truth is that there are very capable engines available free of charge (e.g. UDK)- or for less money than the upgrade will most likely cost - that produce superior results in many respects.

I'll wait and see what the "final announcement" for A8 containts, but now maybe is the time to sell my A7Pro and move on ...

Cheers,
Andreas

you clearly have never ever worked with Visual Studio