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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: sebcrea] #324151
05/19/10 18:09
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Well, excellent you know what I know and what I am mixing. There we have our true prophet. Btw. I don't see any contradiction in your last sentence...

Edit: Thats the result of an action for freedom of speech:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176976/Pakistan_court_orders_government_to_block_Facebook


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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Uhrwerk] #324166
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You stated it "I don't care if this action turns against muslims, christians, owners of cats or users of a certain after shave. It's easy to see that it will offend some people, people who have never done anything bad to you, people you don't even know and that's why it's bullshit."

You talk about action against somebody , this is about speech so clearly you confuse the two which lets me to believe you don't understand western freedeom of speech.

Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: sebcrea] #324168
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Yes, an action against. "Eine Aktion gegen". Encouraging people to do drawings is clearly an action.


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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: sebcrea] #324171
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Originally Posted By: sebcrea
@Pappenheimer so in other words we are just getting what we deserve,

Nonsense. Please, read carefully, start from beginning! wink

Originally Posted By: sebcrea
If the west is reponsible why are the first victims of die growing jihadi movements other more peacefull and enlightened muslims.

Did I say anywhere that they have reason?
I said: there _are_ 'causes', not: they _have_ 'reason', in the sense of 'they are arguing or thinking reasonable.

Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Uhrwerk] #324176
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Originally Posted By: Uhrwerk
Originally Posted By: sebcrea
@ Uhrwerk so your the one who will defend our freedoms in the future?

If you use your freedom to offend others you abuse your freedom. That's where your personal freedom should stop. It's that simple. I don't care if this action turns against muslims, christians, owners of cats or users of a certain after shave. It's easy to see that it will offend some people, people who have never done anything bad to you, people you don't even know and that's why it's bullshit.


They are working to take away my rights, don't I get to do something about that?


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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Michael_Schwarz] #324180
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Who is working to take away what rights? How is provoking those and other people a solution to that?


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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Uhrwerk] #324186
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Puppeteer] #324187
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I rest my case.


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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: Puppeteer] #324189
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i don't get it either. how does this affect you in germany? i think there is too much fearmongering by the media. radical islam (and radical christianity) has no future. the only thing we must not do is neglecting our educational systems.

Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010 [Re: ventilator] #324194
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Ok, there are two pictures with demonstrants on it. You'll find millions of these on the internet. The context of these pictures remains totally unclear. If this is the peoples opinion or if they are just letting some frustration out remains totally unclear. How these people on the pictures are related to you remains totally unclear. Have you ever been in the situation that you wanted to express something but we're not allowed to? I do neither see how these people thread your freedom, nor do I see how offending them and many other people improves any aspect of the situation...


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