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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
[Re: old_bill]
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One thing to everyone who attends this discussion:
Discussion on this subject is fine, but posting pictures which are offensive to some members is not, and so is prohibited here as it is barred in the rules of conduct of this forum.
Everyone who already did so is requiered to remove those pictures please. I don't think I can edit my first post anymore
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 17:32
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Drawing pictures is prohibited in Islam, because this is like duplicating the great creations of Allah. One of the name of Allah is Musaawir which means The giver of form, Shape, colour.
A human being who makes a sculpture, picture or a painting of someone is claiming for all practical purposes that he or she too can make the same form or image. Therefore it appears in the Sahih of Al-Bukhari and in other Hadith that on the day of Judgement, those who will make pictures will be told, ‘When you have tried to imitate us, make the imitation perfect too-if you have the power to do so. We did not simply make an image. We have invested it with a spirit too. If you claim to have created it then you better put a spirit inside the thing you have made.
Another reason for the prohibition of pictures is that the angels of Allah hate pictures and dogs, and surely they hate it only because Allah does. The angels are not like humans, they dont have their free will to think they think according to what Allah orders them. Praise be to Allah, He surely is the best of Creators. Angels do not enter a house with pictures or a dog so therefore the blessings bought down by the angels would decrease.
Another reason appearing in some Hadith that pictures are unnecessary embellishments of this world. Of course in our time, pictures yield many benefits but thousands of crimes including those that range between immodesty and pornography, also breed and flourish from these very pictures. In short, it is not simply one reason alone that was made the basis for it’s prohibition, rather there is a host of reasons why the Shariah of Islam has declared it prohibited to make and use pictures of the living.
Drawing is of two types:
One is drawing pictures of animate beings. It says in the Sunnah that this is forbidden. It is not permitted to draw anything that depicts animate beings, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, according to the saheeh hadeeth: “Every image maker will be in the Fire.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most severely punished of people on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers, those who tried to imitate the creation of Allaah.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The makers of these images will be punished on the Day of Resurrection, and they will be told, ‘Give life to that which you have created.’”
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed those who consume riba (interest, usury) and those who pay it, and he cursed the image-makers. This indicates that making images is forbidden. The scholars interpreted that as referring to images of animate beings such as animals, people and birds.
With regard to drawing inanimate objects – which is the second type of drawing – there is no sin in that, such as drawing mountains, trees, planes, cars and the like. There is nothing wrong with that, according to the scholars.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 17:41
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If you extend this to the other media types, then you are also not allowed to make movies or to make games with animated characters. You would shape the same human form you are not allowed to paint. You would even try to give them character with an animation or with some speaking. This is way closer to duplicating what your god did.
But at the same time it would be also bad to consume such productions. If you watch a movie or if you play a game you would consume a piece of a forbidden product, you would enjoy the shape of an animated being.
With this in mind a Muslim should be only allowed to read and to imagine these things. Right?
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