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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 19:59
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That is bad in comparison, I'm artist to, I can draw pictures, of human or whatever. I do make games, with arts and with animated models too. But making game and draw some pictures of Prophets of other Religions that disgrace them are not the same thing!
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 21:31
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But drawing peoples is sin! Based on what? Koran? Sharia? Pashtunwali?
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 21:49
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Yes, I knew you're a muslim. That's why I was asking. I just wanted to know where you got the information from, that drawin people in general is sin.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 22:01
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There are many limits in our life, but no one pushes us to do them. About animating and making models and so on, I guess we need to ask some really knowledgeable person, who will be able to say is it sin or not. But drawing peoples is sin! But when you are a real artist, then you will probably sketch your 3d model before you start to model. And actually tools like ZBrush are quite similar to painting. In modo, ZBrush and other tools you can paint on a 3d-character to make realistic textures. If you ask me, this is not only like painting an image, it is way more, you are more close to copying an animated figure, you do it in 3d, more realistic. And besides that you simulate life, you try to give them a personality, character. If painting is a sin, then modelling and animating is way more sin. This is straight logic. And what about real sculptures. Are there no sculptures in Muslim architecture? This would be basically the same problem. They are shapes and forms of animated beings.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 22:11
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You know, there are many situation in life, when you can't just follow the logic. If so, you can say something like: "I can't see the soul, so it doesn't exist". That is pure logic, but it is not right. Also you can say: "I can't see the oxygen, so it doesn't exist too"... As same as you can't see somethings because of your eyes not able to, you can't understand somethings, that why we don't need to follow logic all the time. But as soul and oxygen, both of them exist! And that is fact.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/24/10 22:35
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I don't think painting living forms is a sin. When their were no cameras, the only thing was painting, that was the way to tell the story of their contries.
their is many contries, muslim contries that have painted living forms, like humans, because that was the only way to get remembered. for example, Turkey, in the old Ottoman Empire, if we hadn't painted and writted about the rulers, the sultans in the beginning, no one would really know them.
and about drawing our prophet. The reason that no one is allowed to draw him, is that he was a very important person and almost no one still living knows how he looked like. It isn't good to fantasize and draw someone so important, that you really don't know how he really looked.
I'm living in Denmark, where the drawings of our prophet really began. I didn't really get angry about the guy drawing our prophet, but I got angry about how he drawed him. When he drawed our prophet, he didn't draw him as our prophet, but as an terrorist, and that what made me angry.
their is no muslims, that is terrorists. terrorists, who say they are muslims, either are someone that wants to take islam away from the world or he is someone who has been brainwashed by those who wants to take islam away from the world.
I hope I didn't write something wrong. correct me, if I did.
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