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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Germanunkol] #334155
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And I always thought that religion is obsolete in our modern world but not just bad, with some positive and suportable aspects...
But reading Joquans posts make religion seem really a bad thing. How can someone believe in such bullshit.
I remember some "joke", no idea where it comes from. It was something about a drowning man and each time a boat finds him and wants to help he refuses it with the argument that god will save him. He dies and asks god why he didn´t save him and god tells him that he sent several boats to save him. You, Joquan would definatly behave the same if your posts here reflect your real thinking. How can you think that you are able to understand god and his signs?
Where the sumerian gods the real ones? At least there where people believing in them before there even was an idea of the bible. And even better, the bible uses some of their storys. Have they really been wrong?
Don´t moslems have the same rights to get into paradies as christians? At least the god seems to be the very same to me.
There actually is no right or wrong, only the evidence that religion is great to be missused, which already caused a lot of misery.

I basicly have ventilators opinion. It doesn´t matter if we cause global warming or not, but it is always a good thing to improve things, which we know can be done better.
As far as I know, there were problems with acid rain some time ago. To me it seems as if mankind managed to change that. Why shouldn´t we go on with taking care of our environment?

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Slin] #334162
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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Joquan] #334169
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Originally Posted By: Joquan

No they don't. Their god allah is fake, and it is nowhere near the true God.

Atheist fag here, isn't every god right? Religion isn't because you need a reason to kill your neighbor, but something for the day when your life is really fucked up.

In my opinion, the only real reason to pray is because there is nothing else left.

You want your religion accepted? Accept the other bullshit too.


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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: WretchedSid] #334174
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Originally Posted By: JustSid
You want your religion accepted? Accept the other bullshit too.


Hahah, better not. tongue Religions, while in a sense perfectly fine with me as far as personal freedom of speech and personal religion goes, should perhaps not be accepted for a mere 'just because'-kind of reasoning.

In my opinion theists need something better to justify their worldview. Don't get me wrong, I've got no problems when people believe in something entirely different than me, but I do think one shouldn't be able to call it truth or make (ridiculous) supernatural claims when it's not based on (significant and/or relevant) evidence in such a sense that you can actually speak of truth (however relativistic that really is, even in science).

To be honest I think from a rational point of view a lot can actually be said for just banning world religion as a whole. The only problem is that it would have zero practical benefits doing so (at this point in time), being as popular as it is it would simply disappear underground. Not to mention the fact that it would violate the freedom of speech/opinion kind of stuff I think is even more important than explaining why I think organized religion should disappear.

Then again, do members of organized religions ever truly think for themselves? It's one thing to agree, a whole another to follow in blind unconditional faith. Especially when knowing that most people have their own 'personal version' of their beliefs anyway.


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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: PHeMoX] #334179
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Joquan, if I would believe in god, I would take your behaviour as gods sign to really hurt you.
And I am very sure that one can find many, very clear quotes in the bible which state your thinking as completely wrong.
And sorry to let you know this truth, but your god is fake as well and was made up and kept alive to exploit the believers.
And btw, is the catholic or the protestant or some other church the true one in your opinion? Just wondering, as they also all believe in the same god, but see things kinda different, so I guess all their gods are fake as well?

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Slin] #334237
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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Joquan] #334242
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I don't really get involved with these religious discussions because it's futile. You won't change the mind of a theist/atheist with words.

Why do you guys even bother to argue about it? Accept that there either is a God, or there isn't and stop worrying and get on with your life.

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: DJBMASTER] #334243
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Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: Joquan] #334245
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'commanded' huh? Why would you be commanded if you have free will to think and say what you want?

You really should stop worrying about it. How does an athiest affect you?

Re: Global warming: Why are we so slow to act? [Re: DJBMASTER] #334246
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