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Re: OpenAL [Re: 3run] #351739
12/28/10 12:02
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I really donīt understand, what you have against 3run. I mean he is the only person who tries to help newbies here and do not always refer to the manual. Maybe he behaves childish sometimes, but everybody is a bit childish inside. I think 3run is a great user, because he tries to help people so they donīt have to go the same hard way as 3run.
i know that i am making me unpopular now, but i think 3run is right, but not in every point. Itīs right. JCL is not a man of much words. He just talk if itīs necessary. But he really should sometimes tell a bit more, so everybody can understand, because not everyone is so educated like him. but i donīt think that he just tries to advoid problems. i think he is doing something, but i donīt know what. i am sure that he just does necessary things. He was not the one who moved the topic. I am also sure that OpenAl will be implented,but in 2011. i think you can wait a bit 3run.i know how sick it is not to get things which was promised, but sometimes not everything goes well. Maybe JCL got some problems with the Computer or something. Iīts the same like me. I promise something, but something destroys the whole plan and i cant hold my promises. And if this is the case, then you can do nothing else than wait. Complaining doesnīt help. Even if you cry the feature wonīt come earlier.

I hope you understand my Point of view.


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Re: OpenAL [Re: alibaba] #351740
12/28/10 12:13
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alibaba, bro laugh
You are the one who I'm going to miss if I'll leave this community laugh
Thank you for giving me your hand with support, I appreciate it.
Yes, you are right I guess, I need to wait a bit more.
And yes, may be sometimes my words seems to all of you guys, kind of childish.
But thats only because I'm not professional with GS and still I can say some silly things...
And my English skills aren't that good to explain everything in easy way.
Sometimes it takes me few hours to make you understand what I wanted to say...
I even try to draw some pictures in paint to make you understand grin
But not all of you can understand that its hard for me (same as for all users of GS which aren't good with English).
And thats OK, I do not wait for you to do so.
Thank you one more time alibaba. I wish you to have great holidays laugh


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Re: OpenAL [Re: 3run] #351742
12/28/10 12:18
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Thank you, your english is really good, and until now i understood everthig from you laugh

Not everything sounds childish, just in some really small cases.

And i think that this has nothing to do with you gs knowledge laugh
These are just human reactions. This is normal.
And i donīt know why some people has to react like parents or old wise people. Sometimes they need some humor. And thats what i like at you. You are humorous guy. Even if you are stressed.

So please people, try to understand some people and donīt feel offended.


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Re: OpenAL [Re: alibaba] #351743
12/28/10 12:23
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laugh Thank you one more time laugh


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Re: OpenAL [Re: 3run] #351744
12/28/10 12:25
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No Problem, iīm just telling my point of view.


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Re: OpenAL [Re: alibaba] #351818
12/28/10 18:32
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Welcome to the world of software/game development.. Sometimes people miss their deadlines and nothing can be done.

Re: OpenAL [Re: VPrime] #351822
12/28/10 18:59
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instead of whining, the more experienced programmers of this community could try to team up to work on an open source gamestudio clone. tongue

i think with irrlicht/ogre + bullet + openal + lua/python/javascript/mono + blender 2.6 with a customized gui for level editing, it wouldn't be that hard to compete with jcl who just works on gamestudio part time.

the most liked feature of gamestudio seems to be the simple and straightforward scripting api. once a similar c-api (it wouldn't have to be 100% compatible, just similar enough to allow a very easy transition for gamestudio users) and the needed functionality in the background is created for a different engine, the rest would be a piece of cake (binding scripting languages to it,...).

...
or maybe just wait for http://code.google.com/p/gamekit/ to mature. laugh not gamestudio compatible but i think it's the most promising user friendly open source game engine.

Re: OpenAL [Re: ventilator] #351825
12/28/10 19:33
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Quote:
instead of whining, the more experienced programmers of this community could try to team up to work on an open source gamestudio clone.

But experience isn't an indicator for success. I believe that even the smartest of the smartes people here won't be able to make this.
But, feel free to prove me wrong wink


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Re: OpenAL [Re: WretchedSid] #351881
12/29/10 10:01
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some people here program their own engines from scratch (blendelf,...) and this project actually would be easier and less work.

it wouldn't really be about being the smartest programmer but about being able to build a stable team and staying with a project until it is finished. laugh

Re: OpenAL [Re: ventilator] #351882
12/29/10 10:07
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I'm fully agree with ventilator.
Even if not a new engine from scratch, but a normal working FPS template for GS.
Not like the one from AUM (that one looks really sucks). And not like an old A6 templates...
With normal weapons, AI and so on... The only problem is a stable team for that.


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