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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: 3run] #369754
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I guess he wants to know why the "main focus" lies on Mohammed and not on Jesus although Jesus was way cooler.


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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: 3run] #369755
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He was just a normal person, but he also made miracles. And what is so bad at being a normal person? Why does everything have to be magic?

@ Sid: Because Mohammed was the last prophet who admited the "new" religion.

I could tell alot of things, but my english isnīt that well.

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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: alibaba] #369756
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Its probably a psychological thing, someone who is special needs special abilities.

It wasn't my question btw, I just rephrased the question from AlbertoT.

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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: WretchedSid] #369757
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Yes, sorry ^^


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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: alibaba] #369759
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As alibaba said, main focus lies on Muhammad (s.a.a.w), cause he was the last Prophet who gave us a new religion. Islam doesn't separate Prophets via religions and there are no "cooler" Prophets for us, they all Messengers of Allah, and they all same for us, with only one difference, that Muhammad (s.a.a.w.) gave us our religion. And he also had special abilities, he gave us Quran, the book which couldn't be written by human being. To see that, you just need to read it.


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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: 3run] #369762
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I read a huge part of the Quran (just like I read the bible) and I have to say that I don't see why it couldn't be written by a human being (although I must admit that its much cleaner written than the bible).

Please remark that this is just my opinion and I don't want to offend anyone with it, I have no deeper relation to any religion (although they are all extremely fascinating) and I really don't want to discuss these things because religion is such a subjective topic that its almost impossible to discuss it objectively.


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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: alibaba] #369764
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Originally Posted By: alibaba
He was just a normal person, but he also made miracles. And what is so bad at being a normal person? Why does everything have to be magic?



I have never heard of miracles made by Mohammed
Can you mention one or two ?
Did I say it is something bad ?

Simply,in opinion it makes little sense to assume that the main prophet was more or less a normal person while a minor prophet was a sort of, as you said yourself,magician

Hoewever if you think that I am trying to prove the superiority of Jesus over Mohammed
Dont worry, the direct opposite

I am not a religiuos guy
In my opinion the explanation is the following

Middle east was at the top of civilization at the time
It was probably hard to make people believe in magic
Much easier in the wild Europe
In an advanced society religion must get rid of such stuff and to focus on the spiritual aspects,for example forbiding all the God's human like rappresentation

Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: WretchedSid] #369765
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That number-thingy I don't get neither. Archimedes calculated more difficult things thousands of years before the Quran was written.

Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: Joey] #369768
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Sid, as an example for what I said (that it couldn't be written by human being), you can take the growth of the fetus in the womb, which is described in Quran a long time ago, before it was studied by science. I also want to separate difference between Messengers and Prophets. Messengers, gave us new Holly books and religions, example Jesus, Muhammad (s.a.a.w), but Prophets are just blessed by God people, example Salаmon. There were a lot of Prophets sent to us, but only few Messengers.


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Re: Any Muslims here? [Re: 3run] #369788
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@AlbertoT
Donīt worry, it deosnīt feel offended laugh i also didnīt want to offend you laugh

One miracle for example is where he cuts the moon into 2 parts.

Anothere is where mohammed moves a tree.

But sadly all people who sweared that time to be a muslim, when he makes a miracle, thought that he was a magician.


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