I'm going to go ahead and say that the movement generally felt very smooth and comfortable on my machine. Perhaps there are framerate-dependent issues, but the framerate didn't vary here, so it wasn't an issue for me. That's not to say the bugs other people mentioned weren't there -- those were indeed bothersome, and I hope they aren't there in the final version.

I liked the visual style, but soon found myself wondering if it should've been abandoned on the grounds that it's impractical for the type of game it is. It is good design for a player to be able to tell one place from another at a glance. This helps them build a mental progression of rooms, which is particularly important when rooms need to be revisited. The visual style in GRUNTS is not conducive to such familiarity and exploration.

Also, the relative lack of variety may make it hard for some players to motivate themselves to keep exploring. For me, after finishing the first section and entering the second, I lost all motivation to find every key and shoot every enemy enough times to kill it (enemies seemed to take a lot of shots to kill). I didn't feel like I'd be rewarded with anything: no interesting narrative, no exciting locales, no new weapons or characters, no development of my own competitive ability -- not even the sense of accomplishment that many puzzle games rely on. With those things absent, the only thing left to consider is whether or not the gameplay itself is entertaining, and for me it wasn't.

Was ist deutsch für "That's just my two cents!"?

Jibb

@Redeemer: No bad blood at all. :-)

@Bart_the_13th:

Then I would say: "Good, why not. So you are able to contribute great things to the public, that will evolve and improve gaming experience and fun. Why not."
If you have the skills, then they are your skills.
I would be the last to have any problem with that.
Get one or two Artists, a soundguy and probably a Leveldesinger that jumps around in different tasks and create some freetime project for fun.
Maybe it will result in something great.

Das ist nur meine eigene bescheidene Meinung.

We don't really have a nice phrase for this... However, we have the opposite so if you want to say that anothers opinion isn't really worth anything you can say "das ist keine fünf Pfennig wert".

Danke! Außerdum, "deutsch" oder "Deutsch"?

Jibb

bart makes a good point... many bigger companies in the industry have titles with well known issues... so it isnt really unique to indies

In your case its "deutsch". Btw, its probably just a typo, but: Its "Außerdem" not "Außerdum" (sounds a bit like "außer dumm" -> "except dumb").
Btw, yay, off-topic, are you currently trying to learn german?

Außerdem! Cheers. Yes, it's a typo. I'm not doing any lessons or anything, but I am trying to get to the point where I can get the gist of most german topics on the forums, and then hopefully to be able to be involved in them. Thanks for the help

Jibb

I really wish I had learned Latin instead of german through highschool. Latin is good for nothing.

I wonder if I could learn german in college...

Ah, my fault. I forgot that wrong+wrong=right.
Sorry for that.

cheers

I dont want to force him to do anything, but I am allowed to have my own oppinion.



Please name 3 AAA titles released this year with obvious and none playable main game mechanic + that did not got fixed.

And please add what effect this had on a)the publisher of the game and b)the developer of the game.

Also I would like to hear how the user reacted to this games.

...maybe we will see a pattern, why this attitude is bad and wrong.



So its ok to run over a couple of school kids because you are too excited about your new drivers license? SOme might not agree with that.

According to Redeemer he knew about those issues (if you bother reading all the posts before posting yourself), he was in charge of it and he did not fix it. Spike also never denied it.
We will see if a bugfix will ever come.
One thing is for sure: Without this comments here, there woulndt be bug fix for sure.

Grunts would be dead, forgotten and in a few months another user would release the same kind of game, because nobody cares enough to tell him his honest oppinion and that its not ok to sell unfinished and bug infested games.

cheese