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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Sajeth] #381219
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The difference: most of the end-users have flash installed. But Acknex Browser Plugin? Not.

An Acknex Browser Plugin not, no. But JCL has already said that an acxnex plugin wont be realised. Already existing plugins (not sure what JCL had in mind) may be apparent on user's systems. It was already done using a java applet.

Years ago multimedia fusion had a very light plugin that downloads and runs its browser specific games on your screen (browser). many people downloaded it to play the games. Making your players install a plugin is not a matter of too much effort/creepyness of a plugin, it's how you advertise your games/products to the audience. If you do it well enough, they will install the plugin. Remember it's not about what you would do to play a game, but what your audience wants. You can't pull an audience of stubborn programmers over the edge that easy, but you can with gamers (of specific genres).

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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Joozey] #381222
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i don't like browser plugins either and those 3rd party plugins are a huge security risk but it looks like the future lies in the browser. there are a lot of advantages in having stuff run directly in the browser. this whole download/install/run/don'tlikeit/uninstall/deletethecrapthatdidn'tgetuninstalled thing is so stone age. tongue

a google native client solution would be awesome! the latest chrome versions already ship with native client.

Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: ventilator] #381225
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i don't like browser plugins either and those 3rd party plugins are a huge security risk but it looks like the future lies in the browser.

No... no, it doesn't. That's what Microsoft wanted everyone to think in the '90s. Windows 98 was based on that thinking, and it was one of the worst OS's ever...

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this whole download/install/run/don'tlikeit/uninstall/deletethecrapthatdidn'tgetuninstalled thing is so stone age.

I agree, in part. People will *always* be downloading and installing software the conventional way. That's just how software works. But like you, I do hate that most Windows software will leave entries in my user folder, or unused DLL's in my system32 folder, or forgotten entries in my registry.

Thankfully, OS's like Linux maintain an excellent system structure that is devoid of the woes of having such hairball trash as a "registry" or a mysterious "WINDOWS" folder. Linux also maintains great software repositories. For every piece of software you install, you get a modifiable uninstall script that allows you to wipe every trace of the unwanted software off of your system. No stragglers.

I totally sound like a fan boy right now... but get this: when you install Linux onto a hard drive, it's dead easy to create a separate partition for user files like pictures, documents, and program config files. If these folders accumulate too much junk, just wipe the user partition. POW - you've got a clean system again, and you don't have to reinstall all of your software. laugh


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Redeemer] #381226
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But can Linux give me an instant online gamestudio game experience?


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Redeemer] #381227
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i like the idea that we can put 3dgs games on our websites grin.Using flash is hard and so with 3dgs you have a very easy tool to develop this games.i mean easier than flash.


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Progger] #381229
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Then we'll have a dozen of geocities homepages with embedded application/x-acknex-game objects that no one will ever want to visit.

It's one of those cliché topics. "If we had browser support/plugnplay realtime shadows/a builtin MMO engine/DirectX11/'that one feature I read about on the internet with the really cool abbreviation no one used by now and I dont know how it works or what it does but it seems to be cool and the future of gaming itself' my planned RPG-RTS-FPS-MMO-mashup would be the next crysis killer."


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Sajeth] #381265
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But can Linux give me an instant online gamestudio game experience?

No, but that's beside the point. I'm not pushing Linux as a magical beats-everything-at-everything OS. But in terms of operating (which is what an OS does) Linux just *works* much better than Windows.

Anyway this is waaayyyy off-topic. I don't intend to start any conversations about Linux in this thread. I was just pointing out that Vent's stereotypical assertions about traditional software distribution are not true when you use an OS that works so much better. Like I said, I was being a fan boy. wink

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Then we'll have a dozen of geocities homepages with embedded application/x-acknex-game objects that no one will ever want to visit.

This.


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Redeemer] #381267
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What's the deal anyway? Does it matter if JCL includes a demo showing how it's done?


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Joozey] #381269
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I guess not, if it doesn't take very much time to whip up the demo... otherwise, his time is better spent elsewhere.


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Re: any chance of there ever being a browser plugin? [Re: Redeemer] #381279
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We already had a demo with a 3rd party plugin somewhere around the forum since like the first months of a7.


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