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Re: TED - Terrain EDitor [Re: PadMalcom] #389953 12/20/11 09:27 12/20/11 09:27
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,225 germany gri Serious User
gri Serious User Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,225 germany	hi, Program/ Engine is crashing down. Try GS folder/samples/terrain.hmp A8 Version V8.30.5 com "Make a great game or kill it early" (Bruce Shelley, Ensemble Studios)

new version 0.25 [Re: gri] #389972 12/20/11 18:10 12/20/11 18:10
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany) Superku OP Senior Expert
Superku OP Senior Expert Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 6,861 Kiel (Germany)	Thanks gri, it was the pixel instructions that failed on this terrain's DDS texture. There's a new version, now with basic terrain deformation tools (it's the same brush, just check "Deform" - deformation is not saved for now), custom/ easily exchangeable textures and a simple automatic blendmap generator (the result can be seen in the picture below), just press [H]. Originally Posted By: readme == TED v0.25 == The primary focus of this tool is the creation of blendmaps. You can LOAD terrains (hmp) and models (mdl) but most features only work with terrain (don't try to deform a model). Currently, 4 textures are supported but I'm working on support for 5 textures. Suppose your terrain is called "terrain.hmp". Then the program will look for "terrain_blendmap.tga". If that file does not exist, an empty blendmap will be created. Entity-Skins are ignored (for now), you will have to use the textures on the right-hand side of the screen. You can replace them with Shift+Leftclick on the thumbnail. If you press SAVE, your blendmap will be written into "terrain_blendmap.tga" and the 4 skin texture names and their scale factors will be saved in "terrain_config.txt". Terrain deformation will not be saved, yet. == Controls == Right Mouse + WASD - Camera (accelerate with Shift) F1,F2,F3 - Switch Brush Mode Mousewheel - Change Brush Size ## Paint ## Left Mouse - Paint Left Mouse + Ctrl - Paint Opaque/ Ignore Layers Left Mouse + Shift - Erase 1,2,3,4 - Switch Channels Left Mouse + Shift on Texture - Replace Texture (Dialog Window) H - Basic Automatic Blendmap Generation ## Deform ## Left Mouse - Raise Left Mouse + Shift - Lower Left Mouse + Ctrl - Smooth Space - Recalculate Terrain Collision Hull (this should be done after a few deformations, otherwise you will notice the marker's offset) == What's new? == v0.25: - Basic DEFORMation mode, results cannot be saved for now. - Many Bugfixes - Custom Textures - Save Feature - Create a height-dependent Blendmap automatically with [H]. - Change Brush Size with Mousewheel - circle preview marker and other small things Download: http://www.superku.de/TEDv0.25.zip EDIT: Blendmapgenerator and deformation only work with hmp. Last edited by Superku; 12/20/11 18:17. "Falls das Resultat nicht einfach nur dermassen gut aussieht, sollten Sie nochmal von vorn anfangen..." - Manual Check out my new game: Pogostuck: Rage With Your Friends

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: Superku] #389976 12/20/11 18:35 12/20/11 18:35
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,993 Karlsruhe PadMalcom Serious User
PadMalcom Serious User Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,993 Karlsruhe	"Haaaave you met TED?" The editor is getting really good! Please add a min and a max raise level for the deform tool and a way tool so that you can define a start and an end point and the editor creats a flat path between those 2 points. Terrain tutorial using Shade-C amBx-Plugin - use amBx in GameStudio 3D Tower Defence

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: PadMalcom] #390073 12/22/11 07:44 12/22/11 07:44
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest sivan Expert
sivan Expert Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest	it's time for a terrain editor contest I'm also integrating into my little level maker a terrain height and texture editing tool, but since I own only the "poor" version of 3DGS (Extra), I can make it for the single skin+detail map, and for the ffe multitexturing modes at the moment... And a question: Can anyone tell me how much faster is the shader than the ffe multitexturing? I'm planning to upgrade to Commercial at a time, because it seems to worth the price... Free world editor for 3D Gamestudio: MapBuilder Editor

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: sivan] #390076 12/22/11 08:19 12/22/11 08:19
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904 H HeelX Senior Expert
HeelX Senior Expert H Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904	Originally Posted By: sivan it's time for a terrain editor contest I would be in, but only if it would be an official contest.

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: HeelX] #390078 12/22/11 09:09 12/22/11 09:09
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest sivan Expert
sivan Expert Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest	I just wrote it for fun, but anyway Conitec could earn a lot by making various editor contests... (alternative game level maker, terrain maker, model viewer, gui based animation editor etc.) but I'm really interested in how the new editor in development could look... Free world editor for 3D Gamestudio: MapBuilder Editor

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: sivan] #390132 12/23/11 00:18 12/23/11 00:18
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America Redeemer Serious User
Redeemer Serious User Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,660 North America	This looks like a pretty good tool, although currently I see nothing that justifies its existence. In case I'm wrong I'd really like to be corrected, but doesn't MED already allow you to easily modify terrain and create blend maps? Regardless, in my honest opinion heightmap terrains are really boring anyway. They were interesting a decade or two ago when people first began putting them in video games but now whenever I see one I can only think of its limitations. Generally speaking, every heightmap terrain looks the same to me, and I can never be very immersed in a video game whose defining terrain feature is endless rolling hills. This is entering the realm of a tangent, but Rage was graphically appealing to me not just because of the consistent 60 FPS and its unique texturing system but also because it never resorted to using heightmaps to define its geometry anywhere in the world. Eats commas for breakfast. Play Barony: Cursed Edition!

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: Redeemer] #390133 12/23/11 00:36 12/23/11 00:36
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904 H HeelX Senior Expert
HeelX Senior Expert H Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904	Fallout 3 was using heightmap terrain, too, but they used additional mesh pieces to get concave portions, like cliffs or the like. And I found Fallout 3 very appealing...

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: HeelX] #390137 12/23/11 06:02 12/23/11 06:02
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,183 Germany, BaW� Rondidon Expert
Rondidon Expert Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,183 Germany, BaW�	Quote: currently I see nothing that justifies its existence. The tool enables you to edit blendmaps and hightmaps in realtime for MDL files aswell as HMP Terrains. MED and GED can handle HMPs only as far as I know. That`s a big advantage for people who are working with external modelling solutions like Blender.

Re: new version 0.25 [Re: Rondidon] #390149 12/23/11 11:30 12/23/11 11:30
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest sivan Expert
sivan Expert Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,150 Budapest	as I remember there are some hmp editing functions in WED too... but these default tools only toys, cannot provide realistic result alone. at the moment Terragen or L3DT or Earthsculptor is needed, but their export options usually don't work well with 3dgs, only with heightmap images that could result in quality loss... so I think a 3DGS specific new tool is required, but that should generate realistic terrains, not only edit them, which is not simple at all (e.g. simulating erosion). and such a work should be promoted by Conitec somehow... (e.g. Unity has a 3rd party extension tool for this purpose) Free world editor for 3D Gamestudio: MapBuilder Editor

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