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Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: RealSerious3D] #396527
03/07/12 19:35
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Originally Posted By: RealSerious3D
Sure. I completely understand this.

WED and MED are old. Very old. I remember when Conitec licensed some old Quake model editer (QED, was it?) and made it into MED. Well, frankly, it hasn't really changed all that much. And WED might have been great in the days of WorldCraft (Half-Life's editor) when BSP engines were all the rage, but now?


QOOLE -> WED
Q2Modeler -> MED

Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: FBL] #396545
03/07/12 20:48
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Thank you. I had them all back in the day. wink

Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: RealSerious3D] #396547
03/07/12 20:53
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I hope Dagobert development doesn't takke too long, since that project started the GS development is going really slow, before that we had new releases every month


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Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: painkiller] #396551
03/07/12 21:05
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I think the long support of compatability is slowing the engine down unnecessarily.

Just look at the Fileformats, wich are stuffed with struct elements to support old formats.
(The palette -12 years outdated tech- indicating this nicely)
Or the Quake-1 default texture in WED.

I think Gamestudio should really have a structural overhaul.

Make a well finished final A8, and start A9 without looking backward and restrict itself by legacy elements.

This does not mean everything needs to be canned, but
features should be implementable without fear to break the old system.



Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: Damocles] #396553
03/07/12 21:07
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Originally Posted By: Damocles
I think the long support of compatability is slowing the engine down unnecessarily.

Just look at the Fileformats, wich are stuffed with struct elements to support old formats.
(The palette -12 years outdated tech- indicating this nicely)

I think Gamestudio should really have a structural overhaul.

Make a well finished final A8, and start A9 without looking backward and restrict itself by legacy elements.

This does not mean everything needs to be canned, but
features should be implementable without fear to break the old system.



+1

Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: Rei_Ayanami] #396560
03/07/12 21:44
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i also agree. parts of the file formats are quite horrible and cumbersome. i would prefer zipped json or something like that.

and it seems like the active user base is reduced to like 50 or so. what is jcls plan to lure all the lost users back over once there really is a new wed and an android version (in 3 years :))? almost impossible in my opinion... what will be the selling point? do you really think the new wed will be that awesome?

Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: ventilator] #396561
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Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: Rondidon] #396566
03/07/12 22:41
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Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: Harry Potter] #396567
03/07/12 22:47
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Last edited by JibbSmart; 03/07/12 22:58.

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Re: The Future - Is There One? [Re: JibbSmart] #396572
03/07/12 23:16
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Yes. Like we need WAD support any more. wink And, as has been pointed out, a 256 color palette!

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